deyres42 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just now, Sloshed Joe said: Does anyone know if there’s a possible resolution which means Leutweiler will be able to play for us, or is that a non-starter? Sure he'll be available when the loan is paid back, sell a player or solidarity payments, whichever comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Sloshed Joe said: Does anyone know if there’s a possible resolution which means Leutweiler will be able to play for us, or is that a non-starter? I believe it’s something to do with the EFL loan so paying it back is probably the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 It’s wrong on every level, the efl are stopping player having longer contracts and now restricting players playing. I get Oldham are as much to blame, but it’s poor from the efl. Clubs took loans because they’re skint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, latics22 said: It’s wrong on every level, the efl are stopping player having longer contracts and now restricting players playing. I get Oldham are as much to blame, but it’s poor from the efl. Clubs took loans because they’re skint. The efl set the rules we broke them its our fault 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, latics22 said: It’s wrong on every level, the efl are stopping player having longer contracts and now restricting players playing. I get Oldham are as much to blame, but it’s poor from the efl. Clubs took loans because they’re skint. No reason why we should be on a level playing field with properly managed clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Get him to sign a one year contract with an option for a second year (as with Hope) - Rip up his two year contract. Sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: Get him to sign a one year contract with an option for a second year (as with Hope) - Rip up his two year contract. Sorted Could the issue be what @PeteGmentioned the other day; can't imagine he would have signed for less than 800 a week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Could the issue be what @PeteGmentioned the other day; can't imagine he would have signed for less than 800 a week... I heard from a mate out in Dubai that AL believes Leutwiler is training away from the squad due to self-isolation Now either he is being fed a line by Mo and Karl or this is the case, What is unprofessional is that the club has provided no official reason for the keepers non-appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Could the issue be what @PeteGmentioned the other day; can't imagine he would have signed for less than 800 a week... Who knows the real reason. I wouldn't have thought Hope was on 800 a week but they may have got around it. The EFL embargo rules are not exactly straight forward: SECTION 4: EMBARGO RESTRICTIONS – GENERAL PRINCIPLES Whilst each case will be considered on its merits, in general: · During a Transfer Window, clubs subject to an embargo will be allowed to ‘staff up’ to 23 players of professional standing BUT: o can only bring in players on Standard Loan for half a season; o cannot pay Loan Fees; and o cannot contribute more than 100% of the player’s contracted wage with his parent club. · Where the Club cannot fill all available places on a team sheet as doing so would mean that the Club would name more than 5 Players reregister on Temporary Loan Transfers on the Team Sheet, the Club will be permitted to sign contract players for the Season but on free transfer only. The Club shall not be permitted to pay a transfer fee for the Player (or any other contingent fee), however the parties may include a sell on provision. A cap on wages will apply as follows: o Championship £4,500 per week; o League 1 £1,300 per week; and o League 2 £800 per week. · A player of professional standing is a player who has made a first team appearance (including as a substitute) in the following competitions: o League Competition; o Premier League Competition; o League Cup; o Football Association Challenge Cup; o Football Association Community Shield; o any first team club competitions organised by UEFA; and/or o any other professional domestic league or first team Cup competition organised by a national association sanctioned by or affiliated to UEFA and/or FIFA (by way of example, any division of the Scottish Professional Football League, Ligue 1 or 2, or Serie A, B or C). · During a Closed Period, embargoed clubs cannot recruit Out of Registration Players unless they drop below 16 players of professional standing (due to remaining players being suspended, called up for international duty or injured / unfit (supported by independent medical evidence)). The 16 Players means: o 14 outfield players o 2 goalkeepers · The Out of Registration Player can only be signed on multiple monthly contract (to the opening of the next window) and is subject to the same wage caps outlines above. · The embargo applies to any application for a registration (i.e. Contract, transfers in, Standard loans, non-contract etc.). · The League may refuse the permanent transfer or loan (including renewal) of an outgoing player if there is a risk that the club will be unable to name 14 outfield players and 2 goalkeepers for a forthcoming fixture. · These general provisions do not apply to Clubs who are subject to an embargo under the P&S Rules which will instead follow the principles outlined in Section 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, TheBigDog said: I heard from a mate out in Dubai that AL believes Leutwiler is training away from the squad due to self-isolation Now either he is being fed a line by Mo and Karl or this is the case, What is unprofessional is that the club has provided no official reason for the keepers non-appearance. He was at the Newport game and the Tranmere game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: He was at the Newport game and the Tranmere game... Where did he sit for the Newport game because he certainly wasn’t sat with his brother, Karl or the commercial fella in the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Just now, Chaddyexile84 said: Where did he sit for the Newport game because he certainly wasn’t sat with his brother, Karl or the commercial fella in the box Sorry, I mean the keeper, not Abdallah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Just now, Lee Sinnott2 said: Sorry, I mean the keeper, not Abdallah... Sorry, getting my threads mixed up - thought we were on the one where it’s been 11 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Updated post 1... 1. Jayson Leutwiler (2023) 23. Danny Rogers (2022) 2. Jordan Clarke (2022) 3. Sam Hart (2022 with option) 5. Harrison McGahey (2023) 6. Carl Piergianni (2022) 14. Dylan Fage (2022) 15. Kyle Jameson (2022) 17. Jack Stobbs (2022) 20. Andrea Badan (2022) 22. Raphaël Diarra (2022)32. Will Sutton (2022) - on loan with Witton Albion for one month till mid-Sept 44. Alan Sheehan (2022) 4. Ousseynou Cisse (2022 with option) 7. Nicky Adams (2022) 8. Callum Whelan (2022) 10. Davis Keillor-Dunn (2022) 18. Jamie Bowden - on season-long loan from Spurs 24. Dylan Bahamboula (2022) 27. Jamie Hopcutt (2022 with option) 34. Harry Vaughan (2023, with option for 1 more year) 9. Hallum Hope (2022 with option) 11. Zak Dearnley (2022) 19. Vani Da Silva (New Year 2022) 25. Jacob Blyth (short term deal for start of 21/22 season) 29. Junior Luamba (2022) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Updated post 1... 1. Jayson Leutwiler (2023) 23. Danny Rogers (2022) 2. Jordan Clarke (2022) 3. Sam Hart (2022 with option) 5. Harrison McGahey (2023) 6. Carl Piergianni (2022) 14. Dylan Fage (2022) 15. Kyle Jameson (2022) 17. Jack Stobbs (2022) 20. Andrea Badan (2022) 22. Raphaël Diarra (2022)32. Will Sutton (2022) - on loan with Witton Albion for one month till mid-Sept 44. Alan Sheehan (2022) 4. Ousseynou Cisse (2022 with option) 7. Nicky Adams (2022) 8. Callum Whelan (2022) 10. Davis Keillor-Dunn (2022) 18. Jamie Bowden - on season-long loan from Spurs 24. Dylan Bahamboula (2022) 27. Jamie Hopcutt (2022 with option) 34. Harry Vaughan (2023, with option for 1 more year) 9. Hallum Hope (2022 with option) 11. Zak Dearnley (2022) 19. Vani Da Silva (New Year 2022) 25. Jacob Blyth (short term deal for start of 21/22 season) 29. Junior Luamba (2022) From 8 loanees to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Updated post 1... 1. Jayson Leutwiler (2023) 23. Danny Rogers (2022) 2. Jordan Clarke (2022) 3. Sam Hart (2022 with option) 5. Harrison McGahey (2023) 6. Carl Piergianni (2022) 14. Dylan Fage (2022) 15. Kyle Jameson (2022) 17. Jack Stobbs (2022) 20. Andrea Badan (2022) 22. Raphaël Diarra (2022)32. Will Sutton (2022) - on loan with Witton Albion for one month till mid-Sept 44. Alan Sheehan (2022) 4. Ousseynou Cisse (2022 with option) 7. Nicky Adams (2022) 8. Callum Whelan (2022) 10. Davis Keillor-Dunn (2022) 18. Jamie Bowden - on season-long loan from Spurs 24. Dylan Bahamboula (2022) 27. Jamie Hopcutt (2022 with option) 34. Harry Vaughan (2023, with option for 1 more year) 9. Hallum Hope (2022 with option) 11. Zak Dearnley (2022) 19. Vani Da Silva (New Year 2022) 25. Jacob Blyth (short term deal for start of 21/22 season) 29. Junior Luamba (2022) Glad to see Leutwiler is still here. Have they given the youth team keeper a number now though seeing he's been on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Updated post 1... 1. Jayson Leutwiler (2023) 23. Danny Rogers (2022) 2. Jordan Clarke (2022) 3. Sam Hart (2022 with option) 5. Harrison McGahey (2023) 6. Carl Piergianni (2022) 14. Dylan Fage (2022) 15. Kyle Jameson (2022) 17. Jack Stobbs (2022) 20. Andrea Badan (2022) 22. Raphaël Diarra (2022)32. Will Sutton (2022) - on loan with Witton Albion for one month till mid-Sept 44. Alan Sheehan (2022) 4. Ousseynou Cisse (2022 with option) 7. Nicky Adams (2022) 8. Callum Whelan (2022) 10. Davis Keillor-Dunn (2022) 18. Jamie Bowden - on season-long loan from Spurs 24. Dylan Bahamboula (2022) 27. Jamie Hopcutt (2022 with option) 34. Harry Vaughan (2023, with option for 1 more year) 9. Hallum Hope (2022 with option) 11. Zak Dearnley (2022) 19. Vani Da Silva (New Year 2022) 25. Jacob Blyth (short term deal for start of 21/22 season) 29. Junior Luamba (2022) So, we are only allowed (under the terms of the embargo) 23 players of professional standing, which means anyone who has made a first team appearance other than in the EFL trophy. There ar 26 on that list and by my reckoning Messrs Bowden, Sutton and Da Silva don't count as being of professional standing. So there's your 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 33 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: by my reckoning Messrs Bowden, Sutton and Da Silva don't count as being of professional standing. why's that Dave, age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: So, we are only allowed (under the terms of the embargo) 23 players of professional standing, which means anyone who has made a first team appearance other than in the EFL trophy. There ar 26 on that list and by my reckoning Messrs Bowden, Sutton and Da Silva don't count as being of professional standing. So there's your 23. Which means no more strikers. Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: by my reckoning Messrs Bowden, Sutton and Da Silva don't count as being of professional standing. So there's your 23. I think there are one or two others who are not of a 'professional standing'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, astottie said: why's that Dave, age? haven't played a first team game other than EFL Trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, LaticMark said: I think there are one or two others who are not of a 'professional standing'!! Sadly it's a quantitative assessment rather than a qualitative one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, League one forever said: Which means no more strikers. Great stuff. Unless Blyth leaves? How short term is his short-term contract? What happened with the lad from Wolves? Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, League one forever said: Which means no more strikers. Great stuff. We could get a loan striker who hasn't played first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: haven't played a first team game other than EFL Trophy Ah thanks. Didn't Sutton start final game of last season against FGR or am I making that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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