Frankies6 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Unmasked said: For context he is going on loan to NPL Wilton Albion at pretty much the same age as Harry Clarke came to League One and he is older than some of England’s Euro squad Yes its speaks volumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Unmasked said: There is no great issue here but Tarky and Hamer and CBJ were playing first team football at his age as was Harry Clarke . All defenders. Witton Albion are part time and play in a league where teenagers are commonplace . As I say no issue with the loan other than it shows how far off he is Edmundson was destined to remain in non league then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveecky Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Jamie Hopcutt seems a decent signing, but I wish they could bring in some cover for Cisse, cos I can’t see one in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unmasked Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Edmundson was destined to remain in non league then? He went at a younger age to a top end full time National League side …for 10 games . Not a bottom half part time team in the Northern Premier League 2 tiers below the National League . . I thought with your encyclopaedic knowledge of the local non league scene would recognise the chalk and cheesecake difference in the 2 loans that how many from Witton Albion have you recommended and how many made it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, Unmasked said: He went at a younger age to a top end full time National League side …for 10 games . Not a bottom half part time team in the Northern Premier League 2 tiers below the National League . . I thought with your encyclopaedic knowledge of the local non league scene would recognise the chalk and cheesecake difference in the 2 loans that how many from Witton Albion have you recommended and how many made it ? How many alter egos have you had? And how many have lasted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: How many alter egos have you had? And how many have lasted? Got him on ignore but still see when quoted - mods seem to be reluctant to get rid of his latest identity despite being reported - he is the definition of “sealioning” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, Unmasked said: He went at a younger age to a top end full time National League side …for 10 games . Not a bottom half part time team in the Northern Premier League 2 tiers below the National League . . I thought with your encyclopaedic knowledge of the local non league scene would recognise the chalk and cheesecake difference in the 2 loans that how many from Witton Albion have you recommended and how many made it ? My encyclopedic memory tells me Edmundson went on loan to Ramsbottom at the same age as Sutton, progressing to Alfreton at the age of 19. No one can make it with a start like that by your criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unmasked Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, BP1960 said: My encyclopedic memory tells me Edmundson went on loan to Ramsbottom at the same age as Sutton, progressing to Alfreton at the age of 19. No one can make it with a start like that by your criteria. Edmundson was in our first team at 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Got him on ignore but still see when quoted - mods seem to be reluctant to get rid of his latest identity despite being reported - he is the definition of “sealioning” Chaddy, just read his posts and smile, it must take a degree of skill to be so askant (I might have made that word up but it sounds right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unmasked Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 A 1 minute ago, Unmasked said: Edmundson was in our first team at 18 ..in league 1 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Unmasked said: A ..in league 1 too Check Wikipedia. Edmundson was given a free transfer by us, only to be recalled by the next manager, obviously you weren't aware of that? Sutton has been retained. I take no notice of what level a player is at, it doesn't mean they can't make the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unmasked Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Check Wikipedia. Edmundson was given a free transfer by us, only to be recalled by the next manager, obviously you weren't aware of that? Sutton has been retained. So he didn’t play for us in league 1 as an 18 year old in 1-0 victories away to Southend and home to Crewe in April 2016 ? You might want to update Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Unmasked said: So he didn’t play for us in league 1 as an 18 year old in 1-0 victories away to Southend and home to Crewe in April 2016 ? You might want to update Wikipedia The point is you are rubbishing the prospects of a young player who has gone on loan to a non league club. I recommended three Sunday league pub players who finished up in the Championship so to trash a player in the NPL at 18 is ridiculous. Obviously some won't make it, but you cant rule them all out. incidentally, Edmundsom was born in 1997 and this photo at Alfreton is dated 2016... https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-george-edmundson-during-his-alfreton-town-debut-118770878.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unmasked Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, BP1960 said: The point is you are rubbishing the prospects of a young player who has gone on loan to a non league club. I recommended three Sunday league pub players who finished up in the Championship so to trash a player in the NPL at 18 is ridiculous. Obviously some won't make it, but you cant rule them all out. I am rubbishing the benefits a professional footballer playing for a part time team at a not great standard , Who were the Sunday League pub players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, Unmasked said: I am rubbishing the benefits a professional footballer playing for a part time team at a not great standard , Who were the Sunday League pub players ? Lee Trundle, Tony Naylor and Tony Ellis, all playing in Sunday league at Sutton's age. Tony Ellis was signed by Latics, but I thought released far too early, he went on to score 185 goals in the EFL, many in the Championship. I also recommended an 18yo from the North East Countries league, and Chris Waddle didn't turn out bad. Another two were locals from Curzon Ashton and Mossley who went on to play in the top flight, one becoming an International the other starring in the European cup. Never write anyone off because the level they play at. Rick Holden will tell you he was playing amateur football aged 21. I missed Jamie Vardy though, you can't win them all. End of conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Lee Trundle, Tony Naylor and Tony Ellis, all playing in Sunday league at Sutton's age. Tony Ellis was signed by Latics, but I thought released far too early, he went on to score 185 goals in the EFL, many in the Championship. I also recommended an 18yo from the North East Countries league, and Chris Waddle didn't turn out bad. Another two were locals from Curzon Ashton and Mossley who went on to play in the top flight, one becoming an International the other starring in the European cup. Never write anyone off because the level they play at. Rick Holden will tell you he was playing amateur football aged 21. I missed Jamie Vardy though, you can't win them all. End of conversation. You missed Jamie Vardy? Right I'm done with you. Bleeding amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperKeeper Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Interview with Jamie Hopcutt from a couple of years back: https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/firing-ostersunds-victory-galatasaray-english-midfielder-jamie-hopcutt-hopes-finish-job/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, astottie said: You missed Jamie Vardy? Right I'm done with you. Bleeding amateur. It was strange that one, only saw him once and he was well held by the opposition defence. I guess he had an off day as can happen. Should have followed up. From the same game I recommended Lee Gregory instead, who did at least make the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 10 hours ago, SweeperKeeper said: Interview with Jamie Hopcutt from a couple of years back: https://thesetpieces.com/interviews/firing-ostersunds-victory-galatasaray-english-midfielder-jamie-hopcutt-hopes-finish-job/ Sounds promising at least. Fingers crossed he can do a good job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Unmasked said: So he didn’t play for us in league 1 as an 18 year old in 1-0 victories away to Southend and home to Crewe in April 2016 ? You might want to update Wikipedia Sutton has also played a couple of first-team games as an 18 year old, including in the league against Forest Green. He's now going out on loan to Witton as an 18 year old, as Edmundson did with Ramsbottom. Feels like a very sensible comparison to me... Must try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longlostfan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 16 hours ago, BP1960 said: Tony Ellis was signed by Latics, but I thought released far too early From what little we saw of him I thought he had potential which his subsequent career proved. With hindsight he wasn't going to feature in the front line for the next couple of years so it was probably right for him and us to move on. By the time we were relying on a disinterested Sharp and pedestrian Currie he might have been a better bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Longlostfan said: From what little we saw of him I thought he had potential which his subsequent career proved. With hindsight he wasn't going to feature in the front line for the next couple of years so it was probably right for him and us to move on. By the time we were relying on a disinterested Sharp and pedestrian Currie he might have been a better bet. He was years earlier than Sharp and Currie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longlostfan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: He was years earlier than Sharp and Currie That was my point really Dave. He was just before the magnificent Andy Ritchie, Roger Palmer was still in his pomp and then Ian Marshall moved forward. I don't think he would have got a look in. Later when it was Currie and Sharp he might have been an upgrade - at least he would have looked like he cared but he would have been bench warming from 1987 until about 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I take it we will be scrambling to sign a keeper on an emergency loan for Tuesday if Rogers is injured. Will serve the club right if the EFL don't sanction it given how much they have messed up with the Leutweiler signing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloshed Joe Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Does anyone know if there’s a possible resolution which means Leutweiler will be able to play for us, or is that a non-starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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