deyres42 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: But it’s not Norwood’s fault we are 9th is it! It wouldn't be fair to pin all the blame on him, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: It wouldn't be fair to pin all the blame on him, no. Fuck off. You gone through that tub of lube yet ? Edited April 7 by LightDN123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) It's quite simple really. A striker of Norwood's age will never score 30 goals a season at this level. But it's a reasonable expectation for Norwood to have scored 30 goals this season at this level. And he hasn't lived up to that reasonable expectation to score 30 goals this season, so he's underperformed and it's largely his fault we're 9th. And we know that this is what the club expected of him when they signed him because they never came out and said it. Case closed. Edited April 7 by OneSizeFitz 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Look if people think that 17 goals constitutes a good season and value for money then you are more than welcome to hold that view. You'd be wrong of course, but you are entitled to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: You'd be wrong of course, but you are entitled to be. Like you are most of the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 22 minutes ago, OneSizeFitz said: It's quite simple really. A striker of Norwood's age will never score 30 goals a season at this level. But it's a reasonable expectation for Norwood to have scored 30 goals this season at this level. And he hasn't lived up to that reasonable expectation to score 30 goals this season, so he's underperformed and it's largely his fault we're 9th. And we know that this is what the club expected of him when they signed him because they never came out and said it. Case closed. Perfect summary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Look if people think that 17 goals constitutes a good season and value for money then you are more than welcome to hold that view. You'd be wrong of course, but you are entitled to be. I'm no Norwood fan, but it's a reasonable return. If the "recruitment department" thought spunking all that money on him would guarantee 30 goals from him, they really have mis-judged it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, OneSizeFitz said: It's quite simple really. A striker of Norwood's age will never score 30 goals a season at this level. But it's a reasonable expectation for Norwood to have scored 30 goals this season at this level. And he hasn't lived up to that reasonable expectation to score 30 goals this season, so he's underperformed and it's largely his fault we're 9th. And we know that this is what the club expected of him when they signed him because they never came out and said it. Case closed. That, sir, is a gem. Take a bow. Would double upvote it if I could! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 10 minutes ago, JoeP said: I'm no Norwood fan, but it's a reasonable return. If the "recruitment department" thought spunking all that money on him would guarantee 30 goals from him, they really have mis-judged it... 12 goals from open play is not great at all. They have indeed had their pants pulled down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 34 minutes ago, JoeP said: I'm no Norwood fan, but it's a reasonable return. If the "recruitment department" thought spunking all that money on him would guarantee 30 goals from him, they really have mis-judged it... The more I think about Norwood, the more I think David Unsworth put his entire eggs in one basket expecting him to be a silver bullet solution. Problem was* the pennies left in the budget went on Freeman; a player that had 3 overlapping yellow 'Whoops!' price stickers on him and Brennan Dickenson; a Rolls Royce with every warning light flashing**. * Yes, I know the real problem was DU... ** I have used this analagy for Dan Gardner... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 Sachdev gone back https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/sport/24241849.sachdev-returns-parent-club-sheffield-united-oldham/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMarshall's Mullet Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) On 4/7/2024 at 6:20 PM, OneSizeFitz said: It's quite simple really. A striker of Norwood's age will never score 30 goals a season at this level. But it's a reasonable expectation for Norwood to have scored 30 goals this season at this level. And he hasn't lived up to that reasonable expectation to score 30 goals this season, so he's underperformed and it's largely his fault we're 9th. And we know that this is what the club expected of him when they signed him because they never came out and said it. Case closed. I largely disagree with this. If we had a much better midfield that creates chances for strikers to run on to then he would have scored more and he may well have been approaching 30 goals. I think most of us would agree that the midfield has been generally woeful all season. Edited April 9 by IanMarshall's Mullet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 45 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Sachdev gone back https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/sport/24241849.sachdev-returns-parent-club-sheffield-united-oldham/ Wins man of the match and never plays another minute for us. Sums this season up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 20 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Wins man of the match and never plays another minute for us. Sums this season up. More confusion!….we were playing 352 and Sachdev was signed because he’s a specialist in the position of RWB, Mellon said so himself. He has a MOM performance in that position and then is dropped, never to be seen again. Since then we’ve played a couple of different players in that position including Sutton who is not really a FB and definitely not a wing back (sq peg in round hole) which was the reason we brought in Sachdev in the 1st place. Now he says we still haven’t got a RB and Sachdev can’t play RB….. surely a RWB is also able to play RB? IMO Sachdev played here as a FB anyway as I never saw him get up the pitch and go past a player even once while he was here! I’m now so confused I’ve confused myself….it seems Mellon is confused too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, IanMarshall's Mullet said: I largely disagree with this. If we had a much better midfield that creates chances for strikers to run on to then he would have scored more and he may well have been approaching 30 goals. I think most of us would agree that the midfield has been generally woeful all season. It's still the case that he's misses 1:1s in every game I've seen this season, starting about three minutes in at Southend Popping half of those in might well have made the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/3/2024 at 12:25 PM, BP1960 said: Manchester United use them..Garnacho and Antony. City often use one. Argentina won the World Cup with Di Maria. They aren’t traditional wingers. They’re more inside forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/7/2024 at 12:03 PM, deyres42 said: A 34yo isn't scoring 30 goals. Whilst 30 may be a stretch, I’d have him over Will Grigg every day of the week and he’s bagged 24 this season, despite only scoring about 20 in his previous 130 games. You know why? 1. He’s playing Vanarama level football a not L1 2. He has the likes of Dobra, Mandeville & Colcough creating for him. Sort out the service, reap the rewards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I see Norwood took in the Morecambe v Crewe game last night, personally I don't give a fuck what the players do in their own time. Scenes when he signs for The Shrimpers in Piergianni style in a couple of months. Saying that we've not won in ten with him in the team so the conspiracy theorists amongst us may think it's all part of the plan, still not sure why he looks so happy maybe it's the sea air that's cheered him up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can Neil Redfearn Do It Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 17 hours ago, yarddog73 said: Wins man of the match and never plays another minute for us. Sums this season up. It was a bizarre MOTM award though! Given his pace, strength and commitment I wouldn't be surprised to see Sachdev have a decent career, but at this very early stage of it he wasn't what we needed. He was woeful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 minute ago, Can Neil Redfearn Do It said: It was a bizarre MOTM award though! Given his pace, strength and commitment I wouldn't be surprised to see Sachdev have a decent career, but at this very early stage of it he wasn't what we needed. He was woeful. Not disagreeing with that at all, still he had his best game for us that day and wasn't even in the matchday 16 after despite travelling which was just weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 11 hours ago, sjk2008 said: They aren’t traditional wingers. They’re more inside forwards. They play wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 11 hours ago, sjk2008 said: They aren’t traditional wingers. They’re more inside forwards. Well they’re certainly not traditional inside forwards either! I’m surprised you even remember inside forwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 15 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Well they’re certainly not traditional inside forwards either! I’m surprised you even remember inside forwards! Who was the last inside forward who made an impact with us? Edited April 10 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 11 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Who was the last inside forward who made an impact with us? Tommy Bryceland? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Just now, oafc1955 said: Tommy Bryceland? My first favourite player 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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