leeslover Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 What really annoys me is that we all had and have our views on the rights and wrongs of the matter, they've been argued strongly on here, at the games, in the pub. We've put it behind us and moved on. The only thing that we almost all agree on is that Barry's input was disastrous and embarrassing. The size of the man's ego to do this now is beyond compression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I just don't get it. Why? Does he have a regime? Does he feel important when he talks to the press? I don't like the fact when he's interviewed its as 'Barry Owen the Oldham Athletic Football Club Director' as though he's representing us and our club when infact he's just representing his own opinions and ideas. Get rid, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Can society operate on the basis of every crime only being described as alleged? Even if each crime was described as a "banana hammock" I'm sure society will operate just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well the only way to show how much we disaprove of Mr Owen is turn up to the game on Saturday and make your feelings heard. Athleticos can make a banner? put it behind the goal and get it on TV so everyone else cans see he doesnt speak for us- just himself Should be a good game aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Even if each crime was described as a "banana hammock" I'm sure society will operate just fine.You are technically correct of course Phil (as usual I would say) but also obfuscating around the point. I can say that Dr Shipman was alleged to be a murderer and that Barry Owen has been alleged to be less than fantastic as a public face of our club. Both are true. However, a Club Director, and especially one with nothing to recommend himself but 30 years of alleged service in law enforcement should base his judgements on the current position under the law. Before convicted, "alleged," would be appropriate. "Convicted, " is the appropriate term now. You yourself will be well aware that, "convicted," doesn't rule out future challenge or miscarriage of justice, but it's true now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 No That makes the verdict guilty. The law has decided he did it. That doesn't mean that he actually did. And even with the omniscience required to decide his actual guilt, the crime would still be "alleged". "Alleged" just means that it has been claimed. Whether the judicial system found him guilty or not, it has still been "alleged". Barry's use of the word is perfectly correct. What do you make of Barry's use (or coinage) of the phrase "rape crime"? Are there other forms of rape, such as rapes that are not crimes, or are not crimes just because a jury, a judge, the appeal court and Uncle Tom Cobleigh say so? Is there such a thing as a rape misunderstanding that is not a crime? What about a rape to-do? What about a rape incident that is not a crime? And either way, he is entitled to think that Evans is not guilty. He's not alone. He's not alone...does that mean you're with Ched and Barry? Just come out and say it. It's all about free speech. Just say: "I can easily forget a rape crime for the sake of a 20-goal-a-year striker." Easy. No need to hide about it if that's your honest opinion. (If that is your opinion, I hope women give you a wide berth for eternity, and I wish for many other bad things to come your way.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downender Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm absolutely ashamed that this man is a director of the football club I love. It's getting beyond embarrasing now. It's also in my mind this has been done to tempt someone into saying something libellous or defamatory on OWTB after the revelations about him having his solicitor watchong posts on here. Be careful everyone. blokes a prize A :censored:....allegedly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hopefully a few of these people who came up to him at the Doncaster game will come on here and/or Twitter at some point to again support Barry's position & provide a bit of balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Absolute buffoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepingthe Faith Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Someone needs to do some 'dew diligence' on Barry Owen, to see if he really is that 'wet behind the ears', to think that dragging our clubs name through this dirt again is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) I hate the language that is used around talking about him from various people... The "lad" just wants to work... The "boy" just wants a job... How about... The "fully grown man who was convicted of brutally raping a young women".... Its all designed to create some sort of :censored:ed up sympathy for the "poor boy".... Men talking within the confides of a heavily male dominated sport, almost excusing the most awful of crimes a man can commit towards a women. It makes me rage to be frank. Its not just any one person. Some of the commentary from some of the sport talk shows are all like this is a well. The poor little boy is having a hard time... Tough :censored: ! Edited February 24, 2015 by oafc0000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I hate the language that is used around talking about him from various people... The "lad" just wants to work... The "boy" just wants a job... How about... The "fully grown man who was convicted of brutally raping a young women".... Its all designed to create some sort of :censored:ed up sympathy for the "poor boy".... Men talking within the confides of a heavily male dominated sport, almost excusing the most awful of crimes a man can commit towards a women. It makes me rage to be frank. Its not just any one person. Some of the commentary from some of the sport talk shows are all like this is a well. The poor little boy is having a hard time... Tough :censored: ! You really love Barry bringing this back up don't you? Gives you another chance to sensationalise. Brutally? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Please...make him stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Someone needs to do some 'dew diligence' on Barry Owen, to see if he really is that 'wet behind the ears', to think that dragging our clubs name through this dirt again is a good thing. You have to question Neil Joy and Simon Corneys role in this they are his superiors and at the moment he is making them look like a right pair of chumps. They have the power to bring him into line they clearly are not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 "My own personal view, and this is not the view of Oldham Athletic, is that it's a very different situation with Ched Evans," he said. "A lot depends on the public perception of the crime and the type of offence". Barry Owen 16 October 2014. Now why couldn't that be the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I hate the language that is used around talking about him from various people... The "lad" just wants to work... The "boy" just wants a job... How about... The "fully grown man who was convicted of brutally raping a young women".... Its all designed to create some sort of :censored:ed up sympathy for the "poor boy".... Men talking within the confides of a heavily male dominated sport, almost excusing the most awful of crimes a man can commit towards a women. It makes me rage to be frank. Its not just any one person. Some of the commentary from some of the sport talk shows are all like this is a well. The poor little boy is having a hard time... Tough :censored: ! You make a good point, which I agree with. And then ruin it by using an emotive word like 'brutally'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 "Get out of our club get out of our club unwanted ex copper get out of our club " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 "Get out of our club get out of our club unwanted ex copper get out of our club " There's a better song on the OASIS subforum from after Gillingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 "My own personal view, and this is not the view of Oldham Athletic, is that it's a very different situation with Ched Evans," he said. "A lot depends on the public perception of the crime and the type of offence". Barry Owen 16 October 2014. Now why couldn't that be the end? Because Barry cannot be told by anyone that he is wrong about anything, or that he is right about anything. He's in a bellended little world of his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You really love Barry bringing this back up don't you? Gives you another chance to sensationalise. Brutally ? Really? Because I am the one bringing it all back up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You make a good point, which I agree with. And then ruin it by using an emotive word like 'brutally'! Fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Perhaps Corney has sent him out to bat with this as a distracting tactic ahead of further 'bad news' arriving shortly (Johnson)? Or maybe Owen is eyeing up a media career and is pressing the flesh? Or maybe he's just a prize plonker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Barry......please meet me one to one as you offered previously so I as a fan of MY club can tell you exactly what I think of you over your conduct regarding Ched Evans. At the same time you can tell me exactly what you have done for the club to hold such a position and also inform me how you think you have the right to speak on behalf of MY club when you made such a :censored: up of speaking on behalf of me......the fan you claimed to represent......allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Because I am the one bringing it all back up... Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 He needs to be at the centre of attention. Give him enough rope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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