deyres42 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, nzlatic said: What would you like them to have done or what do you think they should have done by now that they haven't? I expected there would be an immediate and decent pot of money available for squad strengthening. I didn't expect to have to be using the youth loan market in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: I expected there would be an immediate and decent pot of money available for squad strengthening. I didn't expect to have to be using the youth loan market in September. So your only metric for whether the owner is any different from the Lemsegams is whether they've spent big on players in the first few weeks of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, nzlatic said: So your only metric for whether the owner is any different from the Lemsegams is whether they've spent big on players in the first few weeks of the season? I'm not really interested if a bar has new pouring machines or some potholes have been filled in, those things are just givens. The one big call that I can see so far was to do the one thing they said they wouldn't do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 To be fair, I just want to see us win football matches at this point. We have years to improve the facilities, but please win some football matches and be competitive in the meantime. They asked for patience so I will let them off for this season (to an extent). Next year, if we arnt performing consistently on a weekly basis and in the top 10, I’m not sure how much more I and certainly other fans can take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 It’s the pissing national league the goal literally moved and the keeper had to move it back in its place on Saturday. Tin pot as anything I’ve seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, Londonboy said: Anyway.....this is a Hallam Hope thread! Anyone know how he's getting on?? This thread really has gone a long way off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, deyres42 said: The one big call I wish we had your acumen at the club, your ability to differentiate the small and big calls is unnerving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, nzlatic said: If improvements happen, they will happen incrementally though. It isn't likely to be 2 years of being thrashed then suddenly it clicks and we're challenging for the title. It'll take time for Unsworth to implement his style, it'll take time for the squad to be improved, it'll take time to see the benefits from the positive changes the club are looking to make. But the idea being that over time things will get better bit by bit. The club are clearly looking at the whole thing as a long term project to try and bring success. It seems we have a section of the fan base that aren't prepared to wait for that - we should just spend all our money on better players right now. And if I knew how to upload pictures I'd stick one of Veruca Salt in here. Upboat, just for getting Veruca Salt in a post on a football forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another fan Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: I'm not really interested if a bar has new pouring machines or some potholes have been filled in, those things are just givens. The one big call that I can see so far was to do the one thing they said they wouldn't do... Perhaps without a new owner there would have been no cjub hy now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parigby Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I know it is off topic, but as a reply to the off topic aspect : if you are playing attractive football, scoring goals, winning loads of games, up there with a real, real chance of promotion - then loads and loads of people will come and stand in the rain with no " match day experiences " ( or whatever they call it these days) to watch their team. They'll even stand in the potholes to watch. It really is simply, it's a RESULTS driven business. Results drive revenue, revenue can then drive facilities - not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, parigby said: I know it is off topic, but as a reply to the off topic aspect : if you are playing attractive football, scoring goals, winning loads of games, up there with a real, real chance of promotion - then loads and loads of people will come and stand in the rain with no " match day experiences " ( or whatever they call it these days) to watch their team. They'll even stand in the potholes to watch. It really is simply, it's a RESULTS driven business. Results drive revenue, revenue can then drive facilities - not the other way around. This goes against every argument of the ALMO reign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, parigby said: I know it is off topic, but as a reply to the off topic aspect : if you are playing attractive football, scoring goals, winning loads of games, up there with a real, real chance of promotion - then loads and loads of people will come and stand in the rain with no " match day experiences " ( or whatever they call it these days) to watch their team. They'll even stand in the potholes to watch. It really is simply, it's a RESULTS driven business. Results drive revenue, revenue can then drive facilities - not the other way around. I'd love to know what sort of business isn't results driven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogdenwoodwhittle Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 hours ago, nzlatic said: If improvements happen, they will happen incrementally though. It isn't likely to be 2 years of being thrashed then suddenly it clicks and we're challenging for the title. It'll take time for Unsworth to implement his style, it'll take time for the squad to be improved, it'll take time to see the benefits from the positive changes the club are looking to make. But the idea being that over time things will get better bit by bit. The club are clearly looking at the whole thing as a long term project to try and bring success. It seems we have a section of the fan base that aren't prepared to wait for that - we should just spend all our money on better players right now. And if I knew how to upload pictures I'd stick one of Veruca Salt in here. The Band or the Character? Or the Fungus/condiment mash up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLYOWD Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Abandon all Hope ye you enter here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, WLYOWD said: Abandon all Hope ye you enter here That about sums it up. So...back on the subject...has anybody heard anything about Hallam Hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wardie said: That about sums it up. So...back on the subject...has anybody heard anything about Hallam Hope? I think, joking aside, that could be a big part of why this thread has veered so wildly from topic-to-topic, which is the bewildering silence. Maybe Suzanne Geldard at The Oldham Times can ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 20 hours ago, deyres42 said: I expected there would be an immediate and decent pot of money available for squad strengthening. I didn't expect to have to be using the youth loan market in September. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 2:21 PM, Dave_Og said: Unless you are on an Eyresesque wind up that's just weird. If a player has two options and is shown round what is on offer at each do you think that won't influence his choice? Especially when one option is from a club that the whole world knows has been a basket case for years. So, assuming Rooney had the choice of staying at Barrow or signing for us (or someone else), how come he's ended up here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 1:54 PM, Matt said: With the current financial climate, I'll be astonished if money is available for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: So, assuming Rooney had the choice of staying at Barrow or signing for us (or someone else), how come he's ended up here? You clearly are on a wind up. I said 'influence', not definitively mitigate against us signing anyone. There could be any number of reasons why he's chosen to leave Barrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Bit more like it. Another 5-6 of his ilk needed now and we might have a chance of doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Pity we couldn't have got Scott Quigley from County before his loan to Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Ackey said: I think, joking aside, that could be a big part of why this thread has veered so wildly from topic-to-topic, which is the bewildering silence. Maybe Suzanne Geldard at The Oldham Times can ask. "bewildering silence" is spot-on, Ackey. As fans and being concerned about one of our own players, why are the club not updating on his recovery toward a return to football? I think we all know his injuries are bad and it could take a while, alongside his confidence, I think it would also be beneficial to Hope if he knew we were concerned for his wellbeing. We don't need to know about any criminal charge proceedings etc. Would it be cheesy for the club to put up a page where fans could leave a message of well wishes and the lad could read them for himself? Positivity aids recovery and all that. Maybe I'm just getting soft in my old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Wardie said: "bewildering silence" is spot-on, Ackey. As fans and being concerned about one of our own players, why are the club not updating on his recovery toward a return to football? I think we all know his injuries are bad and it could take a while, alongside his confidence, I think it would also be beneficial to Hope if he knew we were concerned for his wellbeing. We don't need to know about any criminal charge proceedings etc. Would it be cheesy for the club to put up a page where fans could leave a message of well wishes and the lad could read them for himself? Positivity aids recovery and all that. Maybe I'm just getting soft in my old age. Minute's applause and chanting on the 11th minute this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, deyres42 said: Minute's applause and chanting on the 11th minute this weekend? Can never tell if you're serious or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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