oafcmetty Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Aldershot looking for volunteers to remove the frost covers in the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Wasn't sure what thread to put this in but I saw this video on a site called coaches voice. It's a good one for the thinking football fan Sean Dyche describes how he used 4-4-2 while at Burnley with 2 big lads upfront with a centre back with a good range of passing in Tarkowski they would have the option of getting the ball to the front men accurately. The skill that I believe that is most underrated in Peter Clarke is his ability to pass the ball he is capable of putting a 40 50 yard ball upto the striker or across the pitch to the winger. Anyway give it a watch perhaps this is what Unsworth is trying to do. Sean Dyche explains how to use 4-4-2 Interesting share cheers. I don’t think it’s what the purists imagine 442 to be though! Didn’t mention wing play once when describing attacking. I can see how that was effective for Burnley in the premier league with the right players to execute but I really hope that’s not the long term plan for us going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Aldershot looking for volunteers to remove the frost covers in the morning... I imagine they've released a detailed 62 page report on grass temperature etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: I imagine they've released a detailed 62 page report on grass temperature etc? -3 overnight in Aldershot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Mayfield said: Completely agree. Has a tortured and frustrated demeanour, convinced he feels hard done by some how, possibly forced to play when he believes he is injured. Could be as simple as petulance after having a transfer request denied. Peter Clarke comes straight back into the team in my opinion, contributes a huge amount. Josef Yarney has already shown quality, very promising, can't be dropped after Tuesday's excellent performance. Where did this myth surface from that J Clarke had a transfer request denied? As for being "petulant" or "tortured", if you talk to people working at the club, as I have, they will tell you he is a good pro and a decent fella. Is he one for the future? Maybe not. But he deserves a bit of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, BP1960 said: -3 overnight in Aldershot. According to met office it only goes as low as +1. I’d be surprised if the game was in danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Boyyou said: Where did this myth surface from that J Clarke had a transfer request denied? As for being "petulant" or "tortured", if you talk to people working at the club, as I have, they will tell you he is a good pro and a decent fella. Is he one for the future? Maybe not. But he deserves a bit of respect. You may well be right and we may be just giving him too much credit by looking for excuses for him. How many relegations does he have on his CV though and he's looking worse the more divisions we slip through, maybe he's just a very poor footballer then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, nzlatic said: According to met office it only goes as low as +1. I’d be surprised if the game was in danger. It'll be on. It's only home league games he doesn't do on a Saturday at 3pm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Boyyou said: Where did this myth surface from that J Clarke had a transfer request denied? As for being "petulant" or "tortured", if you talk to people working at the club, as I have, they will tell you he is a good pro and a decent fella. Is he one for the future? Maybe not. But he deserves a bit of respect. Yeah it’s bull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I do t care what formation, as long as we win. I don’t care bore feast after bore feast! Winning is all that matters after years of dross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I hope we win and Jack Stobbs does the post-game interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 P-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 56 minutes ago, GKing521 said: P-P well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stanley30 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Mayfield said: Completely agree. Has a tortured and frustrated demeanour, convinced he feels hard done by some how, possibly forced to play when he believes he is injured. Could be as simple as petulance after having a transfer request denied. Peter Clarke comes straight back into the team in my opinion, contributes a huge amount. Josef Yarney has already shown quality, very promising, can't be dropped after Tuesday's excellent performance. tortured and frustrated demeanour it's fucking football mate, grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Boyyou said: Where did this myth surface from that J Clarke had a transfer request denied? As for being "petulant" or "tortured", if you talk to people working at the club, as I have, they will tell you he is a good pro and a decent fella. Is he one for the future? Maybe not. But he deserves a bit of respect. He did ask to leave. He was told to stay and he was under contract by Shez. He wanted out as soon as we were relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 hours ago, GKing521 said: P-P Dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: Dick. My bad. Hopefully we make it three in a row! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 16 hours ago, nzlatic said: Interesting share cheers. I don’t think it’s what the purists imagine 442 to be though! Didn’t mention wing play once when describing attacking. I can see how that was effective for Burnley in the premier league with the right players to execute but I really hope that’s not the long term plan for us going forward. I'm probably on the same page as you in preferring a different system. I think one of the main reasons a traditional 4-4-2 died out and the popularity of a 4-2-3-1 which is essentially an evolution of 4-4-2 is because that and 4-3-3 (like Pep Guardiolas with high attacking wingers and 2 number 10's) allow teams to pass the ball between the lines through the thirds better as the aim will be to get the number 10 or anyone of the 3 behind the 9 to get the ball in the pockets on the half turn. As Dyche explains that system which is the closet we see to an 80's 90's 4-4-2 did allow fluidity and still allowed playing out from the back but it also gave players with a longer range of passing like Tarkowski or Kieran Trippier to play a long accurate ball from the back. As I said above one of things we underestimate about Peter Clarke is his ability on the ball he's a great leader, professional and can pop up with a goal but he's also a very competent footballer with the ball at his feet it's hugely important for a teams ability to build up play to have defenders who can pass the ball Rather than just lump it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Same team as Tuesday….P Clarke on the bench!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Unchanged. When was the last time that happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Bit surprised he hasn’t brought Clarke back in- but equally understand why he wouldn’t change a winning side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, League one forever said: Bit surprised he hasn’t brought Clarke back in- but equally understand why he wouldn’t change a winning side. I’m not remotely surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I'm not surprised, however, if that right-hand side does become a problem, he can put P. Clarke in the middle and move Yarney out to right-back. Even if Reid was fit to play, would he be on the bench? I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, kowenicki said: I’m not remotely surprised. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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