GlossopLatic Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, Pidge said: Very true, and IMO a big factor in why this season has turned to shit. We have to many players which can’t take criticism. A manager who continued to support the players publicly (in that I include to the media as well as in the open changing room) while challenging them to improve privately, MAY have done better in keeping them from downing tools as they have done this last couple of months. Imagine the comments on this forum though, if the manager had continued to spout generic meaningless post match interviews. So we mostly agree we NEED a new squad, but we can’t have one next year. So do we change the manager and hope the next one can stay friends with them all, or do we back the manager for another whole season and probably starting the next season (with his own players)? A dilemma! It always amazes me that people pay much attention to the post match interviews I mean we've gone what 1 win in 14? Whatever he says in the post match isn't going to change that. He's got to go back in the dressing room and lift the players after that because some of them(quite a few of them in our case) he will need next season so he's got to be careful about throwing them under the bus but he can't turn round and say everything is amazing because clearly it isn't and the fans will thi k he's taking the piss out of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: It always amazes me that people pay much attention to the post match interviews I mean we've gone what 1 win in 14? Whatever he says in the post match isn't going to change that. He's got to go back in the dressing room and lift the players after that because some of them(quite a few of them in our case) he will need next season so he's got to be careful about throwing them under the bus but he can't turn round and say everything is amazing because clearly it isn't and the fans will thi k he's taking the piss out of them. Yep, but 14m 40s of essentially saying the same thing over and over again is quite something. All I took out of was an interest in what 'other things going on' means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 9 hours ago, TwistingMyMellon said: We've already got a Manager who takes no nonsense though.. Like the one previous He just creates alot of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Isn't ironic that the only players who you'd say acquitted themselves yesterday Fondop, Green and Gardner are the three Mellon doesn't fancy and has replaced them at the drop of a hat at every opportunity, I've posted on here about the importance of pace on the flanks and the ppg we pick up with Gardner in the team , both are solid NL players and you could say 'specialists' in their positions so why were both regularly dropped and on occasions when fit not even making matchday 16's?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: 'other things going on' Lost the dressing room since the fallout from ‘Christmas Day’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Lost the dressing room since the fallout from ‘Christmas Day’ 3 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Lost the dressing room since the fallout from ‘Christmas Day’ Absolutely! These players, already performing very poorly at BP, are never going to heal. Being loudly booed off the pitch at a end-of-season game will have long term consequences no matter how justified it was. I have never witnessed any like it in circa 67yrs watching Latics. We are now left with, in the main, a group of poor players who are simply going through the motions. Mellon or anyone else for that matter have a serious problem motivating them. I suspect this will carry on into next season and quite possibly effect recruitment. I suspect there is a ‘grapevine’ for professional footballers at all levels. A new manager may have some form of incite on how to address the problem. But will be another punt. Just maybe, a three month break including pre-season will rekindle enthusiasm. Certainly a group of players will be leaving and touted by some a new manager. All we fans can do is as usual. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 We are in a far worse mess than I initially thought. Mellon is correct in what he says, but also had made mistakes. The board needs to be looked at, because they have got big decisions wrong on the football side of things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 What galled me yesterday was the group of "supporters" who booed our players during the pre-match activities and at half time. I don't boo myself, because I can't see the point, but totally respect the right of others if the performances are poor but to begin before the match has started is just stupid. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 47 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: What galled me yesterday was the group of "supporters" who booed our players during the pre-match activities and at half time. I don't boo myself, because I can't see the point, but totally respect the right of others if the performances are poor but to begin before the match has started is just stupid. If that did happen then those ‘supporters’ need to go and find something else to do on match day. At some point, one of the owners needs to address the fans and ask for more patience and understanding… at least until after we get thumped 4-0 at Tamworth on the opening day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: If that did happen then those ‘supporters’ need to go and find something else to do on match day. At some point, one of the owners needs to address the fans and ask for more patience and understanding… at least until after we get thumped 4-0 at Tamworth on the opening day Definitely happened, I'd guess about 50 or so booing as the players were leaving the pitch pre-match and again at half time when we were actually winning. It has been a very poor and disappointing end to the season but if I resorted to booing players before a ball had been kicked I'd just stay at home and wash the car ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, yarddog73 said: Isn't ironic that the only players who you'd say acquitted themselves yesterday Fondop, Green and Gardner are the three Mellon doesn't fancy and has replaced them at the drop of a hat at every opportunity, I've posted on here about the importance of pace on the flanks and the ppg we pick up with Gardner in the team , both are solid NL players and you could say 'specialists' in their positions so why were both regularly dropped and on occasions when fit not even making matchday 16's?. Might be coincidence that they were the three looking for new contracts while the rest were dreaming of lying "knackered " on the beach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bobledgersheart said: What galled me yesterday was the group of "supporters" who booed our players during the pre-match activities and at half time. I don't boo myself, because I can't see the point, but totally respect the right of others if the performances are poor but to begin before the match has started is just stupid. It's happened numerous times this season. I remember a group of our supporters at a couple of away games under DU earlier in the season waving a San Marino flag about and chanting about how shit the football was pre-kickoff. Basically hoping we lost. Best supporters in the league though, remember Edited April 21 by Guy Branston Pickle 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Down Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 A cameo from the Joe Royle stand yesterday during the second half. Harrison McGahey miscontrolled a ball that went for a throw. A middle aged man a few rows in front sitting with what appeared to be a family group got from his seat and abused McGahey for around 10 seconds, concluding with ' Fuck off out of our club.' There was pretty much an embarrassed silence until Mike Fondop, who was nearby, came across and gestured directly for the man to calm down. This brought a muted round of applause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: It's happened numerous times this season. I remember a group of our supporters at a couple of away games under DU earlier in the season waving a San Marino flag about and chanting about how shit the football was pre-kickoff. Basically hoping we lost. Best supporters in the league though, remember Yep, our fans also need to look at themselves. The feel around the club is all wrong. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: Yep, our fans also need to look at themselves. The feel around the club is all wrong. Yes indeed they do, but, like all football clubs, there is and always will be, a knob element within the fanbase. For whatever reason, the unexpected absolute shit show on the field since the Rothwell’s takeover has unfortunately fuelled the ill feeling on the terraces. The fact that the takeover promised so much, yet where it matters most, on the field, has delivered so little has been very hard to take for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 56 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Yes indeed they do, but, like all football clubs, there is and always will be, a knob element within the fanbase. For whatever reason, the unexpected absolute shit show on the field since the Rothwell’s takeover has unfortunately fuelled the ill feeling on the terraces. The fact that the takeover promised so much, yet where it matters most, on the field, has delivered so little has been very hard to take for some. I think this has gone beyond a section of knobheads. Oxford (A), George and all that group spent most the game on the back of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 19 hours ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: It's happened numerous times this season. I remember a group of our supporters at a couple of away games under DU earlier in the season waving a San Marino flag about and chanting about how shit the football was pre-kickoff. Basically hoping we lost. Best supporters in the league though, remember Waving a San Marino flag is quite amusing, I would wager the players wouldn't even notice it, and if they did they wouldn't have a clue which nation it is from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 14 hours ago, LightDN123 said: I think this has gone beyond a section of knobheads. Oxford (A), George and all that group spent most the game on the back of the players. They were at it again on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Attendance published anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Wealdstone site have it as 6082. https://www.wealdstone-fc.com/post/report-oldham-athletic-2-3-wealdstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Our lowest league attendance o a Saturday of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, Hemel latic said: Our lowest league attendance o a Saturday of the season. And they put about 2000 on the crowd that didn't turn up, not a chance we had more than 4000 there on Saturday, they've counted me for a start and I watched the first half on telly and then drove down to watch Macclesfield v Workington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Really don't get this obsession with crowd numbers. We all know everybody counts season ticket holders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: And they put about 2000 on the crowd that didn't turn up, not a chance we had more than 4000 there on Saturday, they've counted me for a start and I watched the first half on telly and then drove down to watch Macclesfield v Workington. Talking of Macclesfield they would beat us comfortably at the minute, play a similar way to us with John Rooney playing the CDM role that Mcghahey has been playing, got some real quality on the flanks Tre Pemberton was quality at rightback with Kane Drummond equally impressive in front, Luke Duffy played played well on the left but he's still not quite ready for the step up, they brought him in to replace James Berry when he signed for Chesterfield. Of the others the keeper Byrne is better than what we have along with the lad who played on the left of the two centrehalf Mendy who was good on the ball and but has a mistake in him, Owalabi who I recommended a couple of years ago played upfront on his own and did a good job for the team. I think they are on the up and a crowd of about 4000 isn't too bad for that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 57 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Talking of Macclesfield they would beat us comfortably at the minute, play a similar way to us with John Rooney playing the CDM role that Mcghahey has been playing, got some real quality on the flanks Tre Pemberton was quality at rightback with Kane Drummond equally impressive in front, Luke Duffy played played well on the left but he's still not quite ready for the step up, they brought him in to replace James Berry when he signed for Chesterfield. Of the others the keeper Byrne is better than what we have along with the lad who played on the left of the two centrehalf Mendy who was good on the ball and but has a mistake in him, Owalabi who I recommended a couple of years ago played upfront on his own and did a good job for the team. I think they are on the up and a crowd of about 4000 isn't too bad for that level. Very true, Mendy is a quality centre back with excellent distribution, he was considered a transfer target along with James Berry, but DU didn't follow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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