deyres42 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Lets say this plays out with admin, and the FLG take over the running of the club. Would increased season tickets, matchday tickets, sponsorship sales, boxes, 100club, plus non-match day revenue from the OEC not be enough to put together a squad capable of competing in league 2 next season? Possibly although I'd say fan expectation is higher than competing in L2. Still think you need someone with the resources to plug the gaps as and when they occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, singe said: I don't tihnk it would have a budget that could compete, if that's what you meant, but I think it could mopre comfortably avoid relegation. 51 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Possibly although I'd say fan expectation is higher than competing in L2. Still think you need someone with the resources to plug the gaps as and when they occur. Should have added a bit of padding to my post. At this stage, the FLG would seemingly at best be custodians of the club, bringing the ownership of everything together and running the club in a much more fan-oriented way. With a view to being a much more attractive proposition to future owners with deeper pockets. However, I would say that surely not all the teams at the top have money bags owners? Eg Exeter and Crewe seem to be doing ok and they're community owned aren't they? How are they doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Should have added a bit of padding to my post. At this stage, the FLG would seemingly at best be custodians of the club, bringing the ownership of everything together and running the club in a much more fan-oriented way. With a view to being a much more attractive proposition to future owners with deeper pockets. However, I would say that surely not all the teams at the top have money bags owners? Eg Exeter and Crewe seem to be doing ok and they're community owned aren't they? How are they doing it? Exeter have had a sneaky big budget for a while but they also seem to have found a way with finding good players and selling well, Ampadu, Ollie Watkins. Having an excellent manager in Tisdale no doubt helped as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Dave_Og said: So, some questions for the Trust (also posted on their site) Why? Pointless organisation that seems to know very little and achieves absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, ghostofcecere said: £4.2M for the land including the stadium and North Stand. 2 hours ago, Monty Burns said: He wants £4.2M for the land and the stand? . Wrong. Don't reply, wasting both our times. 2 hours ago, ghostofcecere said: Only reporting what he said last night That wasn't what was said last night, was it? He said what he was asking was more than that £4.2m figure (or whatever exactly that figure was).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, singe said: I don't tihnk it would have a budget that could compete, if that's what you meant, but I think it could mopre comfortably avoid relegation. Don't forget a thousand or two will come back once Abdallah has gone.... Just like those few thousand who were going to come back once Corney was gone... Oh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Don't forget a thousand or two will come back once Abdallah has gone.... Just like those few thousand who were going to come back once Corney was gone... Oh.... I can guarantee two from Fleetwood will be renewing as soon as the bellend has departed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 There is no way Blitz has been pumping money into us as some kind of secret benefactor with a soft spot for the club. He’s far to shrewd. He only helped out with North Stand because it has asset value, and he can recoup his money. He’s got little Wembley still in his back pocket if things drag on. He’s says he’s put 14 million in, I wonder how much the Clayton houses/dialysis unit/little Wembley have or will bring him?????? The only thing Blitz can claim is to be a better buisness man than AL. Both are morally repugnant IMO for different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, League one forever said: There is no way Blitz has been pumping money into us as some kind of secret benefactor with a soft spot for the club. He’s far to shrewd. He only helped out with North Stand because it has asset value, and he can recoup his money. He’s got little Wembley still in his back pocket if things drag on. He’s says he’s put 14 million in, I wonder how much the Clayton houses/dialysis unit/little Wembley have or will bring him?????? The only thing Blitz can claim is to be a better buisness man than AL. Both are morally repugnant IMO for different reasons. Exactly, how many houses so far at say 35k per plot and more to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, League one forever said: here is no way Blitz has been pumping money into us as some kind of secret benefactor with a soft spot for the club. He’s far to shrewd. Here is a serious investor in a football club. The numbers are eye watering. Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich paid £247m into the club last season but it still made an overall loss of £96.6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Here is a serious investor in a football club. The numbers are eye watering. Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich paid £247m into the club last season but it still made an overall loss of £96.6m. Not many like him around. Always puzzles me though, to see a real difference to my investment I would always look to buy a smaller club and watch it blossom (in theory). Maybe I'm just biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, League one forever said: There is no way Blitz has been pumping money into us as some kind of secret benefactor with a soft spot for the club. He’s far to shrewd. The club is very closely linked to his investment in the OEC - keeping it from being even more of a basket case than it was would be quite a shrewd move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: That wasn't what was said last night, was it? He said what he was asking was more than that £4.2m figure (or whatever exactly that figure was).... He said something around that figure though didn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Don't forget a thousand or two will come back once Abdallah has gone.... Just like those few thousand who were going to come back once Corney was gone... Oh.... I think the current situation is different to Corney, it feels to me like we are in freefall now where I feel Corney with his contacts etc always managed to retrieve our status (just). With some clarity and less wrangling between all parties as to where the club is going, we would definitely see the fans come back - it only takes two/three decent results to see the gates rise and with a bit of positive news from within the club they would come back (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, wiseowl said: Why? Pointless organisation that seems to know very little and achieves absolutely nothing. Asking questions which remain unanswered tells its own story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo_man Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, True Tic said: Not many like him around. Always puzzles me though, to see a real difference to my investment I would always look to buy a smaller club and watch it blossom (in theory). Maybe I'm just biased. It was probably easier to get a club like Chelsea a virtual top 4 Guarantee year on year and the untold millions that come with the league position, TV money, Champions league etc than trying to get out of the Championship. He did it at arguably the right time also and is still loss making. Looks like the only other level where people fancy a gamble is the National league north level such as Fylde, Fleetwood, Harrogate, Salford have tried or are trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Don't forget a thousand or two will come back once Abdallah has gone.... Just like those few thousand who were going to come back once Corney was gone... Oh.... Difference here is the absolute die hard staunch supporters have left post AL. Only ones left are the likes of Paddy and a bunch of others who probably need their hard drives seizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Haribo_man said: Looks like the only other level where people fancy a gamble is the National league north level such as Fylde, Fleetwood, Harrogate, Salford have tried or are trying. The thing is, I'd much rather go to Nottingham (Notts C), Stockport, Hartlepool or Chesterfield for a day out, than....Fylde, Fleetwood, Salford or Harrogate [alright, maybe not the latter]..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: The club is very closely linked to his investment in the OEC - keeping it from being even more of a basket case than it was would be quite a shrewd move... What are you implying? He has done that, or he should have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Selling the boxes sees crazy. Who bought them, the OEC owners ie. Blitz? Why would he? If Corney now owns 22%, but the shares the FLG have been offered are not part of this, then who owns them currently? Blitz doesn't seem to know of any other shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, al_bro said: Selling the boxes sees crazy. Who bought them, the OEC owners ie. Blitz? Why would he? If Corney now owns 22%, but the shares the FLG have been offered are not part of this, then who owns them currently? Blitz doesn't seem to know of any other shareholders. Obviously the shares they have been offered are Corneys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haribo_man Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: The thing is, I'd much rather go to Nottingham (Notts C), Stockport, Hartlepool or Chesterfield for a day out, than....Fylde, Fleetwood, Salford or Harrogate [alright, maybe not the latter]..... Yeah I get you, I suppose you have the hangover of dated grounds, dwindling crowds vs expectation. With the non-league teams new stands or grounds even have been built without the weight of expectation or the previous legacy. It was tried with Notts County when they brough in the likes of Sol Campbell, look how that worked out compared to where Fleetwood are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Obviously the shares they have been offered are Corneys. Not what I heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, BP1960 said: So if there's more defaults SC could claw back more shares..in theory owning the club again? Perhaps but unlikely, depends on the terms of the clawbacks in the agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: Difference here is the absolute die hard staunch supporters have left post AL. Only ones left are the likes of Paddy and a bunch of others who probably need their hard drives seizing. Er no. Downright offensive to supporters who have been going for donkeys years and are still there, home and away. I don’t personally get to as many away matches as many of them but reckon I can be classed as die hard. That doesn’t make us acolytes of AL , don’t suggest we are to be despised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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