Latics and England Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) When the Trust were informed of this issue 24 hours before the news broke, it was not their job to tell the fans. What does concern me, however, is that they only found out this week. How can the players not have been paid on time for the last 2 months yet at least one director didn't know about it? Edited December 3, 2015 by Latics and England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 An interesting idea. I've been a fan of playershare because I've trusted that the club and the manager's judgement for recruiting the player in question. Right now, going off recent times, I'm not sure that I do. Fuller doesn't look like being anything more than a bit part player and Murphy wasn't really given a good chance. I understand it would be detrimental to the team in the short term, but would it be a possibility (or acceptable to the trust or the fans) to withhold the playershare money from the club in January as a vote of no confidence? I can accept that recent signings have not been what we all expected, but there have been highlights too. For me personally, Elockobi, Evina(who was sold for a profit with the club reInvesting for the follow season), kuqui. Suppose it's a personally judgment call on what players we thought worked, not worked The playershare committee is run seperatley from the Trust and it's a question I can raise at our next meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 When the Trust were informed of this issue 24 hours before the news broke, it was not their job to tell the fans. What does concern me, however, is that they only found out this week. How can the players not have been paid for the last 2 months yet at least one director didn't know about it? Hello latics, I personally don't know all the inns and outs yet as we only meet up every two months but our next meeting is planned soon and I am sure questions will be asked over this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yes okay not all are fundraisers for trust only, but we felt our profile needed to be raised so maybe some charity, small events to be done first. There have been ideas submitted by the fans too, OAFCTOM has suggested an end of season players/fans event like a summer fate, BBQ, games etc,we had the idea of quiz nights in the new stand and I know one of the trust committee would like to see the end of season cricket players v fans match restored. Lots of ideas just on hold at the moment What about a White Collar Boxing Night where you can get to punch (or be punched by) a player or staff member of your choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I can accept that recent signings have not been what we all expected, but there have been highlights too. For me personally, Elockobi, Evina(who was sold for a profit with the club reInvesting for the follow season), kuqui. Suppose it's a personally judgment call on what players we thought worked, not worked The playershare committee is run seperatley from the Trust and it's a question I can raise at our next meeting. Thanks Underdog much appreciated. I agree that playershare has definitely had some successes and even when it hasn't I have been able to see why the signings were made (Joksts being a good example), but unfortunately I don't trust the club's judgement at present. I'm getting a more stable job in the new year so I'm strongly considering joining the trust when I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 An interesting idea. I've been a fan of playershare because I've trusted that the club and the manager's judgement for recruiting the player in question. Right now, going off recent times, I'm not sure that I do. Fuller doesn't look like being anything more than a bit part player and Murphy wasn't really given a good chance. I understand it would be detrimental to the team in the short term, but would it be a possibility (or acceptable to the trust or the fans) to withhold the playershare money from the club in January as a vote of no confidence? With Murphy contracted til 2017, if he keeps scoring in league 2 and he isn't fancied back here he could be sold on for a decent profit. So not one to write off just yet maybe. There have been more positive signings than not with playershare hasn't there? Which is probably a better record than our normal signings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Thanks Underdog much appreciated. I agree that playershare has definitely had some successes and even when it hasn't I have been able to see why the signings were made (Joksts being a good example), but unfortunately I don't trust the club's judgement at present. I'm getting a more stable job in the new year so I'm strongly considering joining the trust when I do. Excellent, if you are a season ticket you are automatically a member and if your not a season ticket holder, like me it's £5 a year to join. Or if you think you have more time, you can of course co-opt in on the board at our next meeting or there after, it's a sort of a time served apprenticeship you see how we work and vice versa. That's the way I did it and how mid-nite is trialling it out now. You don't even have to be local, if you can offer help and support by the skills you have you can do it from afar. PM me at anytime or you can check the trust site out too for more info/historical stuff. Go to: www.trustoldham.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) And how many goals have we had in return for this investment? Or games for that matter?? Latvian Eddie was as worthwhile a use of fundsSorry jwhite I missed this. If we all had a crystal ball....it's the mangers call, some I would say have made decent calls, kuqui, and Evina for Dickov" Hit and miss for Johnson who fully admitted we were not set you for a development project for jokists and in my mind , made amends with Elockobi and okay Murphy is debatable. Kelly attempted the PSV bloke! I can't remember want he was called and Dunn choice so far has been Fuller wether he turns good, well the jury's out. I suppose it's a chance most mangers take when they sign a player. We just rely on that manager to have the inside knowledge to make it a good signing Edited December 2, 2015 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 a summer fate Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hmmm... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Interesting that our Chief Executive is an Accountant and we have cash flow problems. Not particularly sure that he performs at Chief Executive level so where are his skills being applied? What on earth are you on about? Everybody on that board does exactly what Corney tells them to do, or they are out! Edited December 2, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 When the Trust were informed of this issue 24 hours before the news broke, it was not their job to tell the fans. What does concern me, however, is that they only found out this week. How can the players not have been paid for the last 2 months yet at least one director didn't know about it? I agree with you whichever way but were they not paid for two months or paid late for two months? I thought it was the latter but will stand corrected. Like I said, agreed either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 What on earth are you on about? Everybody on that board does exactly what Corney tells them to do, or they are out! Of course I know that bit of irony for you to chew on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I agree with you whichever way but were they not paid for two months or paid late for two months? I thought it was the latter but will stand corrected. Like I said, agreed either way. You are right. I've corrected it as the 2 are obviously very different but as you say, the point stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Any latest on the news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Any latest on the news? The club put out this 'statement' last night - http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-2832282.aspx I assume they decided to delete the words "so :censored: off!" from the end of it, at the last minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I wouldn't have bothered issuing any statement, it is no business of anyone other than the club and it's employees. Maybe it would be different if the players, groundstaff et al came on here moaning, as it stands it's a 10 page non story ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I can accept that recent signings have not been what we all expected, but there have been highlights too. For me personally, Elockobi, Evina(who was sold for a profit with the club reInvesting for the follow season), kuqui. Suppose it's a personally judgment call on what players we thought worked, not worked The playershare committee is run seperatley from the Trust and it's a question I can raise at our next meeting. As a suggestion maybe Playershare could concentrate on Youths contracts, and providing funds to allow Youths to be given FT contracts. Whilst I do not know, I understood that contracts not being offered to the Successful trophy winning youth team was down to funds and a quota/limited number offered contracts, and not neccesarily on abiility. If it was down to TP and in his view despite winning they were deemed not to meet the qaulity standard that is adifferent mater and to me acceptable even if I did not agreee, but at least a fotball decision. but if it was purely money/quota then I ffel that is a good use of playershare money. It also slightly overcomes the issue of playershare moeny being invested and the club not neccearily the team benfits if that players is sold for a profit. Is there any leeways where PLayershare "profit" is ring fenced for sqaud funds? Could that be looked into? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I wouldn't have bothered issuing any statement, it is no business of anyone other than the club and it's employees. Maybe it would be different if the players, groundstaff et al came on here moaning, as it stands it's a 10 page non story ! Strange how the countries best selling newspaper and the BBC see it fit to report our non story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) . Edited December 3, 2015 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Strange how the countries best selling newspaper and the BBC see it fit to report our non story. Barcelona could sell some of their biggest stars to Premier League clubs to balance the books. Forwards Lionel Messi, 28, Neymar, 23, and Luis Suarez, 28, could all be made available. (Sun) Taken from the BBC, attributed to The Sun..... non story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 oh dear...late night posting fete....or maybe it should be fate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Okay I agree our staff not being paid is a non story, so much so its been the headline on the back of the local rag all week, its a non story to those of you who now see the way the club is run as the norm, probably the same people who accept finishing 15th in League 1 as success, just because I expect more than you doesn't mean its the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 i was half expecting a statement from Barry boy to tell the players to stop moaning about not being paid, lower their expectations and accept we are a league one club and these things can happen !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Sorry jwhite I missed this. If we all had a crystal ball....it's the mangers call, some I would say have made decent calls, kuqui, and Evina for Dickov" Hit and miss for Johnson who fully admitted we were not set you for a development project for jokists and in my mind , made amends with Elockobi and okay Murphy is debatable. Kelly attempted the PSV bloke! I can't remember want he was called and Dunn choice so far has been Fuller wether he turns good, well the jury's out. I suppose it's a chance most mangers take when they sign a player. We just rely on that manager to have the inside knowledge to make it a good signing As I said a couple of replies further down from that post - it wasn't meant as an attack on the trust and apologies if it was taken that way - rather some of the ways the funds have been used by the club. The Latvian who never even made the bench and Ricardo Fuller this season - he has brought absolutely nothing to the side whilst another playershare man is firing them in for Crawley. Just thoroughly :censored:ed off with it from all sides this season (the football and club not the trust)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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