dannyboy55555 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 5/2/2019 at 11:29 AM, Crusoe said: Every year I think I'll give this thread a miss, yet here I am again. Confirmed 1. Gary Woods (2021) 20. Zeus de la Paz (2020 plus option) - GET RID 39. Gregor Zabret (season-long loan from Swansea) Still here? 41. Ellis Allen (youth) 2. Zak Mills (2020) 3. Alex Iacovitti (2021 plus option) GET RID 4. Sonhy Sefil (2020) Still here? 5. Ashley Smith-Brown (season-long loan from Plymouth) SEND BACK 6. Jamie Stott (2020 plus option) 15. Javid Swaby-Neavin (probably 2020 plus option, out on a half-season loan to Radcliffe) 29. Tomáš Egert (2020 plus option) 31. David Wheater (2020 plus option) 34. Tom Hamer (2022) 47. Taylor Jones (youth) 7. Johan Branger-Engone (2020) Injured? 8. Filipe Morais (season-long loan from Crawley Town) 10. Mohamed Maouche (2020) 11. Gevaro Nepomuceno (2020) 13. Florian Gonzales (2020 plus option) - GET RID 14. Harry Robinson (2020 plus option, out on a half-season loan to Crusaders) 17. Christopher Missilou (2020) - HMM GET RID 18. Dylan Fage (2021) - GET RID 22. Dominic McHale (2020) - GONE 23. Callum Dolan (2020 plus option, out on a rolling loan to Ashton) - AHMP 24. Mohamad Sylla (2020) 26. Jonny Smith (season-long loan from Bristol City) 33. Chris Eagles (2020 plus option) - GET RID? 9. Urko Vera (2020) - GONE? 16. Scott Wilson (2020) - 19. Désiré Sègbè Azankpo (2020 plus option) 21. Marvin Kokos (2021 plus option) - GET RID 27. Kielen Adams (2020 plus option) - GET RID Limbo Giles Coke (2020) - training with the youth team? Presumably left Benteke, de la Paz, Fane - not officially announced Amankwaa, Baldwin, McFarlane, Norman, Norris, Scholes-Beard, Sheriff - second year scholars not offered contracts Released or leaving Edmundson - sold to Rangers Hunt - contract ended by mutual agreement, signed for Swindon Baxter, Clarke, Gardner, O'Grady, Sheridan, Taylor, Uche - released Afolayan, Dearnley, Iacovitti, Iversen, Lang - end of loan Notes Robinson contract length was announced on the Irish FA website; Swaby-Neavin presumably got the same 7-8 to get rid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 hours ago, dannyboy55555 said: 7-8 to get rid of? Not sure I would keep a single one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ritchierich said: Not sure I would keep a single one of them The plan to find gems, polish them and sell them on doesn't seem to be working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 32 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: The plan to find gems, polish them and sell them on doesn't seem to be working ....or that isn’t the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, lookersstandandy said: ....or that isn’t the plan. I tend to subscribe to the view of incompetence rather than malevolence or malfeasance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I tend to subscribe to the view of incompetence rather than malevolence or malfeasance. Without any understanding of his/their motive, I struggle to subscribe to any particular noun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: I tend to subscribe to the view of incompetence rather than malevolence or malfeasance. I can just see you sat in Leonard Sachs chair in a revival of the 'Good Old Days' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, BP1960 said: I can just see you sat in Leonard Sachs chair in a revival of the 'Good Old Days' . You hum it son, I'll play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 GET RID of everyone except: Those in italics I can't say Those in bold I would want to have in my squad The rest you would have to keep just to have a match day squad Mo is the best! 20. Zeus de la Paz (2020 plus option) 41. Ellis Allen (youth) 2. Zak Mills (2020) 3. Alex Iacovitti (2021 plus option) 15. Javid Swaby-Neavin (probably 2020 plus option, out on a half-season loan to Radcliffe) 34. Tom Hamer (2022) 47. Taylor Jones (youth) 7. Johan Branger-Engone (2020) Injured? 10. Mohamed Maouche (2020) 11. Gevaro Nepomuceno (2020) 14. Harry Robinson (2020 plus option, out on a half-season loan to Crusaders) 17. Christopher Missilou (2020) 18. Dylan Fage (2021) 23. Callum Dolan (2020 plus option, out on a rolling loan to Ashton) - AHMP 24. Mohamad Sylla (2020) 26. Jonny Smith (season-long loan from Bristol City) 19. Désiré Sègbè Azankpo (2020 plus option) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Big Wheats back to Bolton according to our friend Alan Nixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Valentine Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Surprise surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dick_Valentine said: Surprise surprise He’s been largely disappointing but then again we could have Messi in our team and we’d make him look bang average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just posted on twitter regarding Wheater. He's been pretty poor and not a patch on Peter Clarke who he was eventually brought in to replace. However, we have to ensure that we replace him adequately. By adequately, I mean somebody who has played in L1/L2 before. Somebody who is a leader (of sorts) and somebody who isn't a youngster on loan as I don't feel Hamer is ready to lead a defence yet. We cannot go back to Iacovitti in the middle or worse still see the return of Sefil. Have to be extremely careful with this one but I suspect he will return to Bolton. A lot felt that this would be a probability when he first arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Think it endorses our suspicions that under these literally no fucker wants to be here!! He may not have exceeded expectations but defensively we’ve been absolutely dire when he’s been out!! ***********ABDALLAH OUT************ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, unsworthlatic said: Just posted on twitter regarding Wheater. He's been pretty poor and not a patch on Peter Clarke who he was eventually brought in to replace. However, we have to ensure that we replace him adequately. By adequately, I mean somebody who has played in L1/L2 before. Somebody who is a leader (of sorts) and somebody who isn't a youngster on loan as I don't feel Hamer is ready to lead a defence yet. We cannot go back to Iacovitti in the middle or worse still see the return of Sefil. Have to be extremely careful with this one but I suspect he will return to Bolton. A lot felt that this would be a probability when he first arrived. Wheater has been playing on with an injury so understandable if he is struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, BP1960 said: Wheater has been playing on with an injury so understandable if he is struggling. Wasn't aware of this but would make sense. Be interesting to see how we do replace him if he was to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, BP1960 said: Wheater has been playing on with an injury so understandable if he is struggling. Plus he's still been played better than any of the other centre backs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, unsworthlatic said: Just posted on twitter regarding Wheater. He's been pretty poor and not a patch on Peter Clarke who he was eventually brought in to replace. However, we have to ensure that we replace him adequately. By adequately, I mean somebody who has played in L1/L2 before. Somebody who is a leader (of sorts) and somebody who isn't a youngster on loan as I don't feel Hamer is ready to lead a defence yet. We cannot go back to Iacovitti in the middle or worse still see the return of Sefil. Have to be extremely careful with this one but I suspect he will return to Bolton. A lot felt that this would be a probability when he first arrived. I'm expecting Wheater to be back at Bolton by the summer and I'd have no problem with him not being here next season, but while he hasn't had the same impact as Clarke we are going to be significantly weaker without him as it stands. It's not the easiest type of player to replace and I don't trust us to do better, so I'd much prefer that he stays for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Can Noblot sign players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Can Noblot sign players? just loans or free agents isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Wheater has been playing on with an injury so understandable if he is struggling. The injury has impacted Wheater’s overall performance but his on field demeanour has definitely changed over the course of the season. I was at the first game back in August at Forest Green and his presence along with his marshalling of the defence augured well. And that was a defence that included Sefil... However, injury or not, he is not the player I hoped that he would be - as captain and our most experienced defender I expect more input to the shape and organisation of the back four. He seems to have lost interest and intensity. He is not as vocal as he was and maybe he has been yearning for a return to Bolton. And interestingly I recall that a number of Bolton supporters said similar when he left them. If he does go then he must be replaced with an ‘old head’ who will be a good player at our level and also bring some organisation and structure to the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Dino said not long ago that he needed to strengthen the central defence amongst other areas. Whether that's because he knew Wheater was offski or he just doesn't rate what's left, I don't know. No surprise at all if Wheater is back at Bolton any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAV Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, kowenicki said: just loans or free agents isn’t it? But they can’t pay loan fees, so really Wheater would have to be released from his contract, which would make him look a bit of a bottler jumping ship, (or I might be chatting shit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, SAV said: But they can’t pay loan fees, so really Wheater would have to be released from his contract, which would make him look a bit of a bottler jumping ship, (or I might be chatting shit) You suspect the owners would be happy to facilitate his exit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Who could blame him for wanting to go back to Bolton alright they will likely go down but with a new manager new owners new hope. What hope is there for him here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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