JoeP Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Chaddyexile84 said: I'm sick to the fucking back teeth of it all This isn't a football club, it's a bad soap opera with shit racist misogynistic supporting acts in Birkett and Halliwell The whole thing is beyond broken. We've also got two different factions (who over estimate the price, but under estimate the value of everything..) in charge of the club's destiny who want an obscene amount cash for an insolvent club. Even if we go pop - we've got (at least 2 and counting..) separate groups within the dwindling support base who want different things, who have no chance of coming together to start again. Struggling to see a way back. Crisis has brought out the best in some, but has also shown just how many absolute weapons we've got associated with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPAS Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I'm sceptical @BPAS? Yep, utter bullshit. They've flatly refused to come on BPAS when we've invited him & his cronies via Facebook, where they congregate. No matter how many times he/they ask Matt via comments in their closed Facebook group (never directly) Matt will not appear on and therefore endorse any media output they may/may not publish. We would encourage anybody credible to refuse to appear, given the abhorrent views spouted by this individual. We would like to/intend to arrange a public meeting between representatives of all fan groups to engage in a live, public & open debate, where they can participate if they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, BPAS said: Yep, utter bullshit. They've flatly refused to come on BPAS when we've invited him & his cronies via Facebook, where they congregate. No matter how many times he/they ask Matt via comments in their closed Facebook group (never directly) Matt will not appear on and therefore endorse any media output they may/may not publish. We would encourage anybody credible to refuse to appear, given the abhorrent views spouted by this individual. We would like to/intend to arrange a public meeting between representatives of all fan groups to engage in a live, public & open debate, where they can participate if they wish. How many are there...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 why doesn’t Matt dean go on birketts pod cast he could ask questions and answer them. Make him look like an idiot too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, latics22 said: why doesn’t Matt dean go on birketts pod cast he could ask questions and answer them. Make him look like an idiot too! editable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, LaticMark said: Birkett, Partington and Boden have spoken!! www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk I think the final sentence in the Oldham Times report says it all for me: “Despite being excessively critical of our work, this small group [i.e. Realistic] has done nothing to take the debate forward, to offer suggestions or alternatives on how to ensure the best for the football club.” Exactly what have Birkett & co. done to try to rescue the club? Nothing that I have seen/heard. For them to crawl out of the woodwork and attack PTB & co. like this is repugnant, but also hopefully a sign of their desperation that their influence over events may be slipping away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFC_ULTRA Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said: Exactly what have Birkett & co. done to try to rescue the club? Nothing that I have seen/heard. For them to crawl out of the woodwork and attack PTB & co. like this is repugnant, but also hopefully a sign of their desperation that their influence over events may be slipping away. No it’s just a sign that they are wankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: editable... True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, LaticMark said: Birkett, Partington and Boden have spoken!! www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk Jayzus. Can imagine Andy already told burnham this would happen before it happened!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 hours ago, LaticMark said: Birkett, Partington and Boden have spoken!! www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk I loved that paragraph that starts off by praying Tracey Crouch in aid, and ends by implying that the club is a toy that the owner can dispose of as and when he likes. I get a feeling that they haven't the remotest idea what Crouch is all about. They will be a bit fed up when they learn that an unelected group with a lack of transparency about its membership is going to play a poor second fiddle to the Foundation in the future. I am really pleased about the intention to look at the community share option seriously. We did look at it in 2018, and did a lot of due diligence on it, before external events moved us in a different direction. But this type of vehicle was very successful for Pompey fans when they did it and having a very high profile politician lending his name and support is quite a coup for OASF and PTB. This sort of endorsement does not happen without a lot of hard work and some very effective lobbying, so I take my hat off to those who made this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Dave_Og said: editable... Just record it on this end as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, basilrobbie said: I loved that paragraph that starts off by praying Tracey Crouch in aid, and ends by implying that the club is a toy that the owner can dispose of as and when he likes. I get a feeling that they haven't the remotest idea what Crouch is all about. They will be a bit fed up when they learn that an unelected group with a lack of transparency about its membership is going to play a poor second fiddle to the Foundation in the future. I am really pleased about the intention to look at the community share option seriously. We did look at it in 2018, and did a lot of due diligence on it, before external events moved us in a different direction. But this type of vehicle was very successful for Pompey fans when they did it and having a very high profile politician lending his name and support is quite a coup for OASF and PTB. This sort of endorsement does not happen without a lot of hard work and some very effective lobbying, so I take my hat off to those who made this happen. The problem is the owner does treat the club as a toy and can effectively do as he pleases, I think the point they try to make is that he can sell the club to who he sees fit which for me means anybody associated with PLB/FLG will just be dismissed out of hand in much the same way that Simon Brooke went on record as saying Simon Blitz wouldn't deal with Abdallah, these realistics are a different breed though and their support for shitpeas is actually nauseating, what a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Just record it on this end as well... Could last for hours - unrealistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Just record it on this end as well... it's not the only issue tho is it? say you are a decent bloke who successfully and reluctantly runs a decent podcast and repeatedly ask somebody onto it who refuses. that bloke btw runs a shiteee dark mirror version podcast that nobody listens to, whilst trying to pretend he isnt a darft racist and invites you on there to get some clicks and reflected legitimacy?? fuck. that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: it's not the only issue tho is it? say you are a decent bloke who successfully and reluctantly runs a decent podcast and repeatedly ask somebody onto it who refuses. that bloke btw runs a shiteee dark mirror version podcast that nobody listens to, whilst trying to pretend he isnt a darft racist and invites you on there to get some clicks and reflected legitimacy?? fuck. that. You get the pleasure of making him look an even bigger mong than he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: You get the pleasure of making him look an even bigger mong than he is ooh risky wordddd even l wouldnt type or say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: You get the pleasure of making him look an even bigger mong than he is Not a very nice expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, latics22 said: why doesn’t Matt dean go on birketts pod cast he could ask questions and answer them. Make him look like an idiot too! 3 hours ago, Dave_Og said: editable... Agree to a live broadcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 there seems to be a bit of behind the scenes 'to me..to you' going on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 He's openly racist, homophobic and misogynistic. He doesn't deserve any oxygen being given to his views or his platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I am confused and it does not take much granted OASF at the fans forum said they were looking at converting to a CBS to tap into grants/launch a share offer to buy the asset/stadium? This article is about buying the club. Quote "OASF already has a three per cent shareholding in Latics and a place on the club’s board, but these latest plans centre around a community share offer, which would allow supporter groups and individuals the opportunity to buy a stake in Oldham Athletic Football Club, in response to a dramatic decline in the four years since Abdallah Lemsagam’s takeover." Two seperate business potentially up for sale. Last time I worked with the FSA on an CBS model, it was mentioned to think about phased targets on a share offer Phase 1 raise X - Securing a stadium site for professional sports/arena event. This could be BP or alternate site in the borough Phase 2 raise another X - Community hub build. To include onsite training facilities, home for OACT and home as a hub as part of the Oldham cares initiative to address the health in-equalities in the town Phase 3 raise another X - The club, whether to be ready to step in, to have a bigger stake Each of the above can be changed to suit the priorites.....however that is like shifting sand in our dysfunctional set up, one day club, one stadium....aaggh Its going to take some serious number crunching. Gathering of intel from various parties too. Club, FLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, underdog said: I am confused and it does not take much granted OASF at the fans forum said they were looking at converting to a CBS to tap into grants/launch a share offer to buy the asset/stadium? This article is about buying the club. Two seperate business potentially up for sale. Last time I worked with the FSA on an CBS model, it was mentioned to think about phased targets on a share offer Phase 1 raise X - Securing a stadium site for professional sports/arena event. This could be BP or alternate site in the borough Phase 2 raise another X - Community hub build. To include onsite training facilities, home for OACT and home as a hub as part of the Oldham cares initiative to address the health in-equalities in the town Phase 3 raise another X - The club, whether to be ready to step in, to have a bigger stake Each of the above can be changed to suit the priorites.....however that is like shifting sand in our dysfunctional set up, one day club, one stadium....aaggh Its going to take some serious number crunching. Gathering of intel from various parties too. Club, FLG Seems everyone is holding back due to the pending court case. By the time that comes around we could have sunk lower and lost all interest in whatever grand plans are suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Seems everyone is holding back due to the pending court case. By the time that comes around we could have sunk lower and lost all interest in whatever grand plans are suggested. true....or an opportunity to be ready when it does get settled. give or take 18months if not settled out of court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPAS Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Dave_Og said: How many are there...?? How many fans groups? Or how many members of their group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, BPAS said: How many fans groups? Or how many members of their group? I meant the former but I guess both are of interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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