FA Cup draw

[TheBigDog]

1 hour ago, Lags said:

I always thought the wearing of a poppy was a mark of respect for those that gave their lives for the freedoms we still enjoy. Whilst raising money for an organisation that still supports old or younger injured service man and women. My head hurts reading the deep intellectual true meaning.

You are right. Lest we forget.

[IanMarshall's Mullet]

7 hours ago, Matt said:

 

 

I think virtue signalling is also the act of bringing to public attention those who do not display a suffiencient level of expected (subjective) support to something. 

 

I think that's partially correct but would change it to as below:-

 

The act of bringing to public attention those who do not display a sufficient level of expected support to something that you think is the right moral viewpoint and that by publicly displaying this it shows to the public what a good, righteous person you think you are.

 

The above describes what Mullin was doing by putting the slogan on his boots.

 

I've used the word 'you' above to make a point but of course it doesn't actually mean you Matt.

 

Ian MM

 

PS just my opinion.

Edited November 5, 2022 by IanMarshall's Mullet

[BP1960]

Nick Haughton running rings round Gillingham says BBC. 1-1 so far

[disjointed]

6 hours ago, Lags said:

I always thought the wearing of a poppy was a mark of respect for those that gave their lives for the freedoms we still enjoy. Whilst raising money for an organisation that still supports old or younger injured service man and women. My head hurts reading the deep intellectual true meaning.

For most of us this is what it means. 

[Matt]

3 hours ago, IanMarshall's Mullet said:

 

I think that's partially correct but would change it to as below:-

 

The act of bringing to public attention those who do not display a sufficient level of expected support to something that you think is the right moral viewpoint and that by publicly displaying this it shows to the public what a good, righteous person you think you are.

 

I already said that though, I did say 'subjective'...

 

Anyway, Mullins has achieved what he wanted to say - he's shown the boots to the world, he doesn't need to wear them - when he scores all he has to do is point at the messageless boots - everyone who knows, will know what he means. His job is done, I guess, and the mental gymnastics the free speech crowd are making will continue.

[IanMarshall's Mullet]

28 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

I already said that though, I did say 'subjective'...

 

Anyway, Mullins has achieved what he wanted to say - he's shown the boots to the world, he doesn't need to wear them - when he scores all he has to do is point at the messageless boots - everyone who knows, will know what he means. His job is done, I guess, and the mental gymnastics the free speech crowd are making will continue.

 

I know you said subjective and I agree he's done his virtue signalling. He isn't going to change anyone's mind about anything in politics by his antics but he thinks in his head he's shown what a good, righteous, morally correct person he is. No doubt he will get a nice warm glow from that - that's what virtue signallers thrive on.

 

Anyway I'm bored with this now - how do you think we'll get on tomorrow Matt?

 

[Magic Mikey]

3 hours ago, IanMarshall's Mullet said:

 

I know you said subjective and I agree he's done his virtue signalling. He isn't going to change anyone's mind about anything in politics by his antics but he thinks in his head he's shown what a good, righteous, morally correct person he is. No doubt he will get a nice warm glow from that - that's what virtue signallers thrive on.

 

Anyway I'm bored with this now - how do you think we'll get on tomorrow Matt?

 

I'm pleased to know that you believe it's virtuous to say that the Tories are cunts. 

[IanMarshall's Mullet]

34 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said:

I'm pleased to know that you believe it's virtuous to say that the Tories are cunts. 

FFS Mikey it's got absolutely fuck all to do with what I think or believe!!  It's to do with what Mullin thinks. He thinks he's virtuous by doing what he did and by doing what he did he wants other people to think that as well ie signalling it. Just read what I said in my previous posts explaining what the act of virtue signalling is defined as. Try Google, I didn't make the meaning up.....

 

That's me finished on this subject.

 

Edited November 5, 2022 by IanMarshall's Mullet

[Matt]

12 hours ago, IanMarshall's Mullet said:

 

I know you said subjective and I agree he's done his virtue signalling. He isn't going to change anyone's mind about anything in politics by his antics but he thinks in his head he's shown what a good, righteous, morally correct person he is. No doubt he will get a nice warm glow from that - that's what virtue signallers thrive on.

 

Anyway I'm bored with this now - how do you think we'll get on tomorrow Matt?

 

 

I didn't say he was virtue signalling, which is a phrase that's wracked with problem in itself - it's a lazy put-down. I think Mullin expressed a geniune conviction in response to the Tories fucking us, over and over. I also think that the boot was not to change anyones mind, but it's was to show solidarity in a way that many of us cannot. Support the Miners/Dockers/Strikes etc would have been similar a tone back in the 80's, albeit with less swears - but I get his idea, and I support it.

 

History repeats itself.

 

I said earlier that the poppy was a similar thing to your understanding of Virtue Signalling, or Only Saying That To Make Yourself Look Good. I said the poppy, not wearing of the poppy. The T-shirts, van stickers, caravan decals, painting of walls, decorations etc are almost certainly used To Make Yourself Look Good. Wearing a poppy should be a symbol of remembrance - should be and indeed was, but in recent decades has been politicised and commercialised and hijacked to become somthing to Make Yourself Look Good.

[Dave_Og]

In the meantime do we know if Abraham is available?

[pk200]

1 hour ago, Dave_Og said:

In the meantime do we know if Abraham is available?

No but neither do Wrexham .

[oafc1955]

1 hour ago, Dave_Og said:

In the meantime do we know if Abraham is available?

If he were here for a season I’d say he’d be allowed to play but as it’s only until January I think it’s unlikely.

[Lee Sinnott]

52 minutes ago, pk200 said:

No but neither do Wrexham .

Both clubs get a list of registered players the Friday before a game so they will...

[Chaddyexile84]

3 hours ago, Dave_Og said:

In the meantime do we know if Abraham is available?

 

Starting 

[Bobledgersheart]

Hope too !!

[latics22]

Lest we forget this game!

[IanMarshall's Mullet]

5 hours ago, Matt said:

 

I didn't say he was virtue signalling, which is a phrase that's wracked with problem in itself - it's a lazy put-down. I think Mullin expressed a geniune conviction in response to the Tories fucking us, over and over. I also think that the boot was not to change anyones mind, but it's was to show solidarity in a way that many of us cannot. Support the Miners/Dockers/Strikes etc would have been similar a tone back in the 80's, albeit with less swears - but I get his idea, and I support it.

 

History repeats itself.

 

I said earlier that the poppy was a similar thing to your understanding of Virtue Signalling, or Only Saying That To Make Yourself Look Good. I said the poppy, not wearing of the poppy. The T-shirts, van stickers, caravan decals, painting of walls, decorations etc are almost certainly used To Make Yourself Look Good. Wearing a poppy should be a symbol of remembrance - should be and indeed was, but in recent decades has been politicised and commercialised and hijacked to become somthing to Make Yourself Look Good.

My god!! You need to calm down and concentrate on football  

Edited November 6, 2022 by IanMarshall's Mullet

[BP1960]

Another match postponed as Dagenham are playing in the FA Cup 2nd round on November 26th.

So if no other match is arranged we have no home game after Saturday until a month later on December 11th.

With our away form it looks ominous.

Edited November 7, 2022 by BP1960

[Guy Branston Pickle]

On 11/6/2022 at 1:05 PM, IanMarshall's Mullet said:

My god!! You need to calm down and concentrate on football  

Weird response to a perfectly valid point

 

[IanMarshall's Mullet]

2 hours ago, Guy Branston Pickle said:

Weird response to a perfectly valid point

 

Nothing weird about it at all. I was bored with it by that time and he seemed to have a bee in his bonnet........

 

Edited November 8, 2022 by IanMarshall's Mullet

[Matt]

8 hours ago, IanMarshall's Mullet said:

Nothing weird about it at all. I was bored with it by that time and he seemed to have a bee in his bonnet........

 

 

Apparently on the internet when a comment mentions 'that's my last word on the matter' or words to that effect, nobody else can talk about it. 

[Guy Branston Pickle]

12 hours ago, IanMarshall's Mullet said:

Nothing weird about it at all. I was bored with it by that time and he seemed to have a bee in his bonnet........

 

I think you know he had a perfectly valid point and have no response, so decided to stick your fingers in your ears and blow a raspberry.

[IanMarshall's Mullet]

4 hours ago, Guy Branston Pickle said:

I think you know he had a perfectly valid point and have no response, so decided to stick your fingers in your ears and blow a raspberry.

Wrong. At no point did I say I agreed or disagreed with what Matt said in his post 11/6/2022 at 8.01AM. I felt Matt's clearly well written and thought out views didn't warrant a response from me in a thread about the FA Cup draw. Matt's clearly an intelligent person but I just thought it was time to lighten up a bit and get back to thread subject. It obviously rattled your cage which I regret simply because I'm here again replying to you.

Edited November 8, 2022 by IanMarshall's Mullet

[JoeP]

I assume the draw for the start of our Road To Wembley is on Monday?

 

Hopefully the last time we'll come in at this round!

[True Tic]

2 minutes ago, JoeP said:

I assume the draw for the start of our Road To Wembley is on Monday?

 

Hopefully the last time we'll come in at this round!

I know I should be but I can’t be arsed with it. Fixated on the league