True Tic Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: A few people screaming for a switch to 4-4-2. Isn't this a mixture of nostalgia and ignorance? Not many teams use a 4-4-2 for various tactical reasons. You need a solid three in midfield, or you get over run. I used to like the old 4-4-2, but to use it now would be naive. We'd be slaughtered, and the lack of pace in CD would be massively exposed. Sorry, but this went out with the dinosaurs. I'd go 4-3-3 or 4-5-1, with 4-2-3-1 as a variation. It probably is out of date but I’d use it over what’s been dished out so far. What he’s been advocating doesn’t suit the players. It’s stupidly negative and still ends in defeat so it’s pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 48 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: A few people screaming for a switch to 4-4-2. Isn't this a mixture of nostalgia and ignorance? Not many teams use a 4-4-2 for various tactical reasons. You need a solid three in midfield, or you get over run. I used to like the old 4-4-2, but to use it now would be naive. We'd be slaughtered, and the lack of pace in CD would be massively exposed. Sorry, but this went out with the dinosaurs. I'd go 4-3-3 or 4-5-1, with 4-2-3-1 as a variation. its ancient, its classic Latics fans. we get over run in CM enuf as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveecky Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 If we go 4-4-2 with our two new strikers up top, then we need to lose Tollitt despite his scoring record. He is not a left midfield player and hasn’t the energy or defensive ability to play the role. Similarly we don’t have a suitable right sided midfield player. You also can’t play Rooney in his best position just behind the striker. Basically, we have spent money buying players that can’t play at the same time unless they are out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, steveecky said: If we go 4-4-2 with our two new strikers up top, then we need to lose Tollitt despite his scoring record. He is not a left midfield player and hasn’t the energy or defensive ability to play the role. Similarly we don’t have a suitable right sided midfield player. You also can’t play Rooney in his best position just behind the striker. Basically, we have spent money buying players that can’t play at the same time unless they are out of position. Its only the fans calling for 4 4 2 He has players capable playing about 50 formations, not less his supposed favoured 4 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I wish he didn't "big up" Notts County so much either, as if they are ferkin Real Madrid. They are a non league team whom Dorking put 3 past when beating them, Coalville bloody Town beat them and Southend, Yeovil, Boreham Wood, Gateshead, Chesterfield and Bromley have all drawn with them. Pack it in Unsworth and get your side motivated to go out and beat these. The fans deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, wiseowl said: I wish he didn't "big up" Notts County so much either, as if they are ferkin Real Madrid. They are a non league team whom Dorking put 3 past when beating them, Coalville bloody Town beat them and Southend, Yeovil, Boreham Wood, Gateshead, Chesterfield and Bromley have all drawn with them. Pack it in Unsworth and get your side motivated to go out and beat these. The fans deserve it. Love it Come on let's do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Can anyone see any way we can win this game….we are not suddenly morphing into Barcelona after 20 odd games of pure shite! Can you imagine the piss boil if we are 2 down in 10 minutes!! There is the potential for a repeat of the Cardiff fiasco! Unsworth had better be prepared for some proper abuse!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Can anyone see any way we can win this game….we are not suddenly morphing into Barcelona after 20 odd games of pure shite! Yes. Truth is we should be beating them at home with the resources we have. Both Coalville (FA cup away at Notts) and Dorking (home) put 3 past them when beating them. They are not some team of super humans - we just made them look that way in one of the worst Oldham Athletics performances ever last week. They are vulnerable when you go at them - that's what we need to do. We want some pride back and it's time for DU to show he has some balls and set out to actually attack and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Can anyone see any way we can win this game….we are not suddenly morphing into Barcelona after 20 odd games of pure shite! Can you imagine the piss boil if we are 2 down in 10 minutes!! There is the potential for a repeat of the Cardiff fiasco! Unsworth had better be prepared for some proper abuse!!! Or we could do like we did to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Or we could do like we did to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 We’ll start well. They’ll score against the run of the play. We’ll show a bit of fight without creating much. Half time. We’ll create two good chances and miss both. They’ll score again. The match will Peter out and we’ll score when they have stepped off the gas. Unsy will come out say that exactly the type of performance he’s after and much better than Boxing Day. We’ll sit 2nd bottom with 24 games left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Yes. Truth is we should be beating them at home with the resources we have. Both Coalville (FA cup away at Notts) and Dorking (home) put 3 past them when beating them. They are not some team of super humans - we just made them look that way in one of the worst Oldham Athletics performances ever last week. They are vulnerable when you go at them - that's what we need to do. We want some pride back and it's time for DU to show he has some balls and set out to actually attack and win. We wouldn't be 6/1 if we should be beating them would we, ridiculous mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Or we could do like we did to Liverpool. We got in Liverpools faces from the off in that game. This team does the complete opposite it's stands off and let's teams dictate and get into their stride. Until we stop letting teams do this to us we will keep failing. We need more aggression I'm our play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 County will rock up expecting yet another piss-poor effort of weak willed resistance and complete lack of a game plan. Chances are, they will get that. As mentioned above, County are not some team of super-human footballers, they are beatable and vulnerable to attack, as Latics' goal proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: We wouldn't be 6/1 if we should be beating them would we, ridiculous mindset. Only one ridiculous mindset exists and that's the managers who was beat before stepping foot in Meadow Lane and set us up for damage limitation, regardless of odds it's 11v11 and dictated by fine margins, I doubt we've ever been 7/1 for a a League game at home to anyone in the past 20 years never mind in the 5th division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Only one ridiculous mindset exists and that's the managers who was beat before stepping foot in Meadow Lane and set us up for damage limitation, regardless of odds it's 11v11 and dictated by fine margins, I doubt we've ever been 7/1 for a a League game at home to anyone in the past 20 years never mind in the 5th division. Any outcome is possible regardless of how unlikely it may seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 It'd be so Laticsy for us to win 2-0 or something. It's literally set up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Banks, Zone 3 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: It'd be so Laticsy for us to win 2-0 or something. It's literally set up for it. I'd normally totally agree with you, but I reckon under this guy it's impossible. He's instilled too much of a negative losing mentality into the players, they'll be beaten on Sunday before they take to the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 13 hours ago, TheBigDog said: I can only find 7-1 for a Latics win … I must be able to get longer odds somewhere? I'll take a 7-1 win. Nuttall with 5, Tollit and Timmy with the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollandspies Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, L1onheartNew said: I'll take a 7-1 win. Nuttall with 5, Tollit and Timmy with the others Whatever happens on Super Sunday, it will be Box Office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Hopefully his last game incharge, if what seems the inevitable happens, New year and a need to kick on, while the candles still burning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Hopefully his last game incharge, if what seems the inevitable happens, New year and a need to kick on, while the candles still burning He won’t go no matter what happens NYD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Play the 2 strikers with Rooney behind. Put the rest of the turds in whatever formation you fancy behind them and give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Clifford said: Play the 2 strikers with Rooney behind. Put the rest of the turds in whatever formation you fancy behind them and give it a go. Though I did smile when reading this, it’s not right to call them ‘turds’ is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbroyton Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Though I did smile when reading this, it’s not right to call them ‘turds’ is it? No it's very unfair on turds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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