Micky Mellon's Retained and Released List

[League one forever]

1 hour ago, deyres42 said:

"We would like to thank the players who depart this summer and we wish them well in their future careers"

 

Can only assume some of you lot can't read cos there's nothing vague about that...

 

Another big call you’ve got wrong. 

 

5 hours ago, League one forever said:

I wonder if they’ve said to a few- if no one moves, we can’t offer you anything. If players leave, we might come back to you with something? 

Meanwhile - I’m spot on.

 

 

[League one forever]

1 hour ago, deyres42 said:

 

 

5 hours ago, League one forever said:

 

Double post. 

Edited April 24 by League one forever

[oafc1955]

1 hour ago, Crusoe said:

Suzanne just posted an update. Amazingly enough it isn’t as clear as that. Fondop, Gardner, Green and McGahey might be offered new terms if savings are made elsewhere in the squad (Nuttall and Willoughby mentioned). The others are definitely going. 

So…if we manage to get shut of Nuttall  & Willoughby and save some money we’ve got the mouthwatering prospect of re signing, McGahey, Gardner, Green & Fondop!!!

For varying reasons they are all squad players at best…If that’s really what Mellon is considering he needs to go right now!!

[yarddog73]

42 minutes ago, oafc1955 said:

So…if we manage to get shut of Nuttall  & Willoughby and save some money we’ve got the mouthwatering prospect of re signing, McGahey, Gardner, Green & Fondop!!!

For varying reasons they are all squad players at best…If that’s really what Mellon is considering he needs to go right now!!

What a prospect, so he's effectively saying if we can get rid of the players we didn't have anyway we can re-sign the ones who took us on our worst winless run in twenty years at the lowest level we've ever played at. Sorry but that's just fucking stupid, does he somehow think he's going to get a different tune out of the same bunch?.

[oafc1955]

1 hour ago, yarddog73 said:

What a prospect, so he's effectively saying if we can get rid of the players we didn't have anyway we can re-sign the ones who took us on our worst winless run in twenty years at the lowest level we've ever played at. Sorry but that's just fucking stupid, does he somehow think he's going to get a different tune out of the same bunch?.

So if we can get Nuttall & Willoughby off the wage bill he’d look to re-sign two absolute crocks, an oil tanker & a reserve striker. That would mean us having 21 of the actual squad we had for this season……..surely not FFS!

 

If that’s true then I don’t know what to think anymore other than what is the actual point!

 

[deyres42]

4 hours ago, League one forever said:

 

Another big call you’ve got wrong. 

 

Meanwhile - I’m spot on.

 

 

Hmm, may and could seems to be doing the heavy lifting in that article.

 

Quite frankly if what good looks like is the likes of Green and Gardner and we are relying on moving others on in order to be able to offer them something then alarm bells should be ringing.

 

But those and other concerns can be parked for now, I'm off to enjoy what will be hopefully be a fantastic summer of sport and maybe even some nicer weather, if they ever stop spraying the sky with chemicals of course...

 

Stay safe and stay entertained

[Handsy]

Total over the top pissboil on here and X .  What do we have 19 contracted players  atm  not a big enough squad for a full season I think we can all agree on that. So we need another 5 or 6 players for a 25/26 man squad maybe these 5 or 6 players are the specialist player Mellon  mentions us  needing. He has probably already identified them and may be in negotiations .  I can see Nuttall Reid Willoughby and Shelton definitely moving on   That would give him the  room and funds to add the likes of green fondop Gardner and mcgahey  as squad players . Chill out folkes and enjoy the  summer. Plenty of time to moan and rant about Latics next august 

[trickyrickyholden]

36 minutes ago, Handsy said:

Total over the top pissboil on here and X .  What do we have 19 contracted players  atm  not a big enough squad for a full season I think we can all agree on that. So we need another 5 or 6 players for a 25/26 man squad maybe these 5 or 6 players are the specialist player Mellon  mentions us  needing. He has probably already identified them and may be in negotiations .  I can see Nuttall Reid Willoughby and Shelton definitely moving on   That would give him the  room and funds to add the likes of green fondop Gardner and mcgahey  as squad players . Chill out folkes and enjoy the  summer. Plenty of time to moan and rant about Latics next august 

This is exactly my read on it. Chill the fuck out everyone 

[nzlatic]

Some folk seem to think that Mellon’s grand plan is to move out a few of the in-contract players just so he can resign a few of the out of contract players. And that’s it. And they’re losing their minds about it

 

Its ridiculous. Desperately seeking something to be furious about. Or to find “evidence” that backs their view that Mellon should be sacked. 
 

There also seems to be some thinking that any player retained, resigned or signed is an automatic first team starter. Do the sums… 11 players can start a match, the squad will be something like 25 players. Not all of them can start!

 

Let’s say we move 4 players on and resign the 4 rumoured out of contract as squad players. Then we’d probably be signing half a dozen more to complete the squad. Those ones being the missing pieces to improve us. 
 

Seems to make sense. 

[BradKnowles1]

You can’t slate the team, say you know what a good player is and moan about the budget then offer potential contracts to 4 players. Fans are pissed off as it is. The club are burning bridges and some will end up voting with their feet

[LightDN123]

The reality is, we only need 5/6 others to come in. Assuming they are all starters, that’s half the team. 
 

Why the piss boil ? 

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

3 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said:

You can’t slate the team, say you know what a good player is and moan about the budget then offer potential contracts to 4 players. Fans are pissed off as it is. The club are burning bridges and some will end up voting with their feet

Fucking let them if they’re that mardy. Sone can see the bigger picture.

[Dave_Og]

3 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

The reality is, we only need 5/6 others to come in. Assuming they are all starters, that’s half the team. 
 

Why the piss boil ? 

Perhaps because we cannot make a single mistake in recruiting those 5 or 6.  That's a very unlikely scenario at the best of times.

[Lee Sinnott]

5 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

Fucking let them if they’re that mardy. Sone can see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture isn't giving new deals to Devarn Green and Mike Fondop...

[Pidge]

The way I tend to see this is that we have a squad on paper who are good enough.  
 

Therefore the problem is them not playing to their potential. MM surely wouldn’t have been implying he needs wholesale changes unless the real problem was that the team just was not putting in the effort required because of “behind the scenes reasons”.  That problem needs fixing.
 

We know he is stuck with a lot of them, and a needs to control the budget. 
So how do you solve this conundrum?  The answer maybe to sideline (or let go if he can) the problem players. Talk to those out of contract that he feels are honest pros and give them his trust to give him their best next season. Then hopefully recruit the players in positions we all need filling with quality.

 

I’m happy to let MM try because a new manage would still need to solve this.

[simplythemostimportantkick]

39 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said:

You can’t slate the team, say you know what a good player is and moan about the budget then offer potential contracts to 4 players. Fans are pissed off as it is. The club are burning bridges and some will end up voting with their feet

What does a potential contract look like ? People are making their own assumptions when in reality nobody here knows fuckall. Least of all yourself who I’ve not seen be right over any of the shite you keep piping up with . Give it a rest 

[dannyboy55555]

10 hours ago, League one forever said:

 

Another big call you’ve got wrong. 

 

Meanwhile - I’m spot on.

 

 

I mean, i said it first like.

[mick26]

3 hours ago, Handsy said:

Total over the top pissboil on here and X .  What do we have 19 contracted players  atm  not a big enough squad for a full season I think we can all agree on that. So we need another 5 or 6 players for a 25/26 man squad maybe these 5 or 6 players are the specialist player Mellon  mentions us  needing. He has probably already identified them and may be in negotiations .  I can see Nuttall Reid Willoughby and Shelton definitely moving on   That would give him the  room and funds to add the likes of green fondop Gardner and mcgahey  as squad players . Chill out folkes and enjoy the  summer. Plenty of time to moan and rant about Latics next august 

Hope you're right - that sounds a lot more positive. Just hope we're not running out to the Dad's Army theme if the Worrall and more experience rumours are correct.

[Boyyou]

11 hours ago, Crusoe said:

Suzanne just posted an update. Amazingly enough it isn’t as clear as that. Fondop, Gardner, Green and McGahey might be offered new terms if savings are made elsewhere in the squad (Nuttall and Willoughby mentioned). The others are definitely going. 

Not having a go at Suzanne,  but that article is just ifs, buts and maybes. Pure rumour and speculation without a single quote from anybody, such as manager or CEO.

[nzlatic]

The reality is we need a squad of around 24 players. We now have a squad of 19 and a number of that squad will leave as they are clearly not in his plans:

Kofi Moore (probably a season loan)

Joe Nuttall

Alex Reid

Mark Shelton

Kurt Willoughby

 

That brings us to 14. I don't think we'll stop there either. I think more will go out of what's left. Which for the sake of argument brings us to 12 players. If we want a squad of 24 then that's another 8 signings, plus the 4 rumoured from the out of contract list. 

 

That's still a massive change from where we were last week. But with 16 of the 24 in my hypothetical situation being existing players who have worked with Mellon, that brings an element of continuity when it comes to what he expects from his players.

Edited April 25 by nzlatic
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[Dave_Og]

1 minute ago, nzlatic said:

The reality is we need a squad of around 24 players. We now have a squad of 20 and a number of that squad will leave as they are clearly not in his plans:

Kofi Moore (probably a season loan)

Joe Nuttall

Alex Reid

Mark Shelton

Kurt Willoughby

 

That brings us to 15. I don't think we'll stop there either. I think more will go out of what's left. Which for the sake of argument brings us to 12 players. If we want a squad of 24 then that's another 8 signings, plus the 4 rumoured from the out of contract list. 

 

That's still a massive change from where we were last week. But with 16 of the 24 in my hypothetical situation being existing players who have worked with Mellon, that brings an element of continuity when it comes to what he expects from his players.

 

It's not really a massive change though - it's just a theory that may or may not come about.  If he has a squad largely made up of players he'd worked with before, and largely ones he's said aren't good enough, we're in big trouble.  It all seems to swing on how many of the out of favour we can offload and how much of their wages we will still be paying.  Room for manoeuvre is clearly very limited and means that the half a dozen or so that we will probably sign all have to work out, hit the ground running and be injury free.  On recent form in the recruitment stakes I'd rate that as being a very long shot indeed.

[BradKnowles1]

1 hour ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

What does a potential contract look like ? People are making their own assumptions when in reality nobody here knows fuckall. Least of all yourself who I’ve not seen be right over any of the shite you keep piping up with . Give it a rest 

Well it was in the Oldham times confirming the 4….

[simplythemostimportantkick]

2 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said:

Well it was in the Oldham times confirming the 4….

See what happens 

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said:

The bigger picture isn't giving new deals to Devarn Green and Mike Fondop...

 

As much as I'd agree, we don't have the budget for bringing in better players than them as back up choices.

[True Tic]

10 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

 

As much as I'd agree, we don't have the budget for bringing in better players than them as back up choices.

What does the budget comprise of? I thought it was a five year plan or something , there must be funds available