League one forever Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Mayfield said: Fully agree Shez identified his transfer targets, I don't believe he was successful in landing many of his number one choices. Standard for many a manager. Not exclusive to us. 1 hour ago, Mayfield said: Budget, availability and willingness of players to join Latics on a permanent basis (still a basket case club at that stage) all contributed to the present situation. We signed 9 permanent players while the takeover was going through- all Shez’s choices. And all probably told by Shez that ALMO would be gone. So how does contribute to the present situation? Furthermore DR said in one of first interviews that our playing budget was healthy. 1 hour ago, Mayfield said: Quality loan players were always part of the squad building plan, we need more quality. Agreed, and who has he chosen? 4 defenders. . . 1 hour ago, Mayfield said: Players signed under the new owner will be vital I expect, with a need to move on some before he can reshape the squad. New signings and loans included he’s currently signed 13 players- I’d argue that’s more than enough to reshape the squad. I think you’re being very kind to him, when the reality is- he’s been given the tools and is really struggling. In part through his recruitment and in part through his capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Genuine question. What does Tommy Wright bring to the table ? No idea. Feels like jobs for the boys to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, League one forever said: No idea. Feels like jobs for the boys to be honest. He takes over the shouting and bawling when Sheri needs to rest his voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Fervid said: Duncan or Darren Ferguson take your pick - watch this space. Young progressive manager! They are both 7 years “younger than shez “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, the_mighty_bosh said: Do I think we should build the next couple of seasons around them to have the best chance of promotion from this league? To be honest, no. Do I think we should get rid of them before having a clear strategy in place from the board about how we're going get out of this league? Definitely not. Whenever we do call time on Shez's tenure, the next manager or head coach cannot be a short term replacement. I agree with this. I think it will interesting to see what happens when new investors come on board I think that when we will see a new strategy put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, the_mighty_bosh said: Do I think we should get rid of them before having a clear strategy in place from the board about how we're going get out of this league? Definitely not That’s a really fair point. If the next guy is just told we’ll support where we can and leave you to it, then we’ll be back to square one if and when results turn. To be fair to frank though, one of the first things he did say was he wanted a top class academy- for that, you need a manger who will actually play them, and give them the trust and encouragement they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 8 hours ago, League one forever said: To be fair to frank though, one of the first things he did say was he wanted a top class academy- for that, you need a manger who will actually play them, and give them the trust and encouragement they need. Only if they're good enough. That is also a long term project and I suspect most don't want to wait that long to return to the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, Lags said: Only if they're good enough. That is also a long term project and I suspect most don't want to wait that long to return to the EFL. Chicken and egg - if you never play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Lags said: Only if they're good enough. That is also a long term project and I suspect most don't want to wait that long to return to the EFL. 54 minutes ago, League one forever said: Chicken and egg - if you never play them. Rotherham has been mentioned as the type of club that we should aspire to be and I think that's realistic, but while they are basically at their limit Exeter are a good example slightly lower down of what can be achieved by believing in youngsters. It's not about money either, Matt Taylor has said they've been "blown out of the water" when it comes to wages in League One when they've been competing for signings to improve them, but instead they are more than happy to turn to their academy first rather than accepting lower quality players from other teams. In the 3-4-1-2 formation from Saturday, the 4 in midfield were all from their academy and they beat MK. It's not been uncommon for them to have 5 or 6 academy players starting. I understand to a point why Sheridan is reluctant to throw in the likes of Vaughan, Luamba and Couto too soon, but when the more experienced players aren't performing they should be the first players he turns to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 'You can't win anything with kid's' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Many on here myself included said let's see where we are after 10 games. We have away games at Boreham Wood and Woking and then Eastleigh at home on 17th Sept to get to this point. We could very easily be in the bottom four by then. We have won 2 games against a truly dreadful Aldershot side with a last minute goal, and against Dorking, the smallest team in the division, who should have really beaten us, and whos bubble has well and truly bust conceding 12 goals in their last 3 games. It's inevitable I think we will have a new manager by the big Wrexham game on October 1st....I fucking hope so anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Londonboy said: Many on here myself included said let's see where we are after 10 games. We have away games at Boreham Wood and Woking and then Eastleigh at home on 17th Sept to get to this point. We could very easily be in the bottom four by then. We have won 2 games against a truly dreadful Aldershot side with a last minute goal, and against Dorking, the smallest team in the division, who should have really beaten us, and whos bubble has well and truly bust conceding 12 goals in their last 3 games. It's inevitable I think we will have a new manager by the big Wrexham game on October 1st....I fucking hope so anyway Maybe this 10 games theory should take in pre season where it was obvious there were poor players selected and no pattern of play. The performances in pre season mirrored exactly what is happening now. For example lower division Fylde played a passing game we couldn't live with and one player in particular who was light years better than any of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 17 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Genuine question. What does Tommy Wright bring to the table? A small chair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: A small chair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 If we lose against the working mens club we play on Saturday he surely has to go, injuries or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 This season is still salvageable. The right manager can have this team in and around the playoffs. Bar Notts/Chesterfield/Wrexham, it's a pretty poor league. With this manager, we finish between 14th and 19th IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Wouldn’t mind us looking at a certain Mr Jonathan Greening… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: This season is still salvageable. The right manager can have this team in and around the playoffs. Bar Notts/Chesterfield/Wrexham, it's a pretty poor league. With this manager, we finish between 14th and 19th IMO... Given our injuries i don't think we are far off Chesterfield. Some actual patterns of play and tactical structure and I think we could have still got a result despite gifting 2 goals. The players are ok for the level but we have no clue how to defend or attack as a team. That comes from the Jurrasic Park brothers on the touch line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 10:17 PM, BP1960 said: We have a performance analyst now, it makes me wonder if Shez takes any notice of him at all. Not any more we don’t. Conor Marlin has joined Bradford City today. Good promotion for him as it happens. I guess he could be replaced although we didn’t do that with the entire Analysis Team, all of whom left in the summer. I know two of them very well. In fact, I’ve known one of them all his life So for now, it seems to be just down to Shez and Tommy to sort this out. Alternatively, maybe this means that wholesale changes are in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: Not any more we don’t. Conor Marlin has joined Bradford City today. Good promotion for him as it happens. I guess he could be replaced although we didn’t do that with the entire Analysis Team, all of whom left in the summer. I know two of them very well. In fact, I’ve known one of them all his life So for now, it seems to be just down to Shez and Tommy to sort this out. Alternatively, maybe this means that wholesale changes are in the air? Connor Marlin hasn't been performance analyst since the Stephen Robinson time We do have one called Robbie Page which a quick check of the "contact us" page on the website confirms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Connor Marlin hasn't been performance analyst since the Stephen Robinson time We do have one called Robbie Page which a quick check of the "contact us" page on the website confirms I'm surprised at this. Has anybody told Sheridan the club has one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Not sure which thread but someone posted the interview with Franks son in the recent programme. I find it worrying that the fact the Company profited from Covid-19 was the only reason the family have been able to acquire the club. I don’t think there is much scope, if any, for the family alone to invest into the club to take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: Not sure which thread but someone posted the interview with Franks son in the recent programme. I find it worrying that the fact the Company profited from Covid-19 was the only reason the family have been able to acquire the club. I don’t think there is much scope, if any, for the family alone to invest into the club to take us forward. But they've said all along that they aim to broaden ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: But they've said all along that they aim to broaden ownership Aim, wish, dream........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 hours ago, Dave_Og said: But they've said all along that they aim to broaden ownership Exactly my point. So I am under the impression this is us, until we can secure further investment which is not guaranteed. That’s the worrying part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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