mcfluff1985 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, Andy b said: This is something I have queried. Not saying it’s the wrong strategy but am intrigued as to why they are rolling out a phase 1 (basically asked AL to prove he can make things better) rather than going to phase 2 straight away. I would suggest phase 1 has been implemented already and we know the answer. He is being given a second (or even third or fourth) chance for some reason. ‘if you don’t behave I’m telling your father. I know I said that I would do that before but this time I really mean it. Promise’ As someone who was a member of the Trust that did nothing but kiss arse with the club, you're asking a lot from the trust and fans now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Can the Trust director establish if bouncers without ID were hired by the club, even if they were sub contracted. I'm sure what was shown on the media yesterday was a criminal offence and those responsible for employing them even if a 2nd party should be brought to book. Comments from Barry as an ex policeman will also be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, mcfluff1985 said: As someone who was a member of the Trust that did nothing but kiss arse with the club, you're asking a lot from the trust and fans now Wondered when you might pipe up. You’re lovely aren’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, Andy b said: Wondered when you might pipe up. You’re lovely aren’t. What have you taken issue with? You keep calling on people to do something. You were a part of the trust and did nothing. So not sure how you can continue preaching like you are. It's got shades of Barry Owen about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, mcfluff1985 said: What have you taken issue with? You keep calling on people to do something. You were a part of the trust and did nothing. So not sure how you can continue preaching like you are. It's got shades of Barry Owen about it Have a word with PTB about me mate and come back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Can the Trust director establish if bouncers without ID were hired by the club, even if they were sub contracted. I'm sure what was shown on the media yesterday was a criminal offence and those responsible for employing them even if a 2nd party should be brought to book. Agree with that but not bothered about the ex policeman's thoughts on this or any other matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: While I agree, I also think that the PTB statement is intentionally stronger than the OASF statement to provide role clarity between the two groups. It's probably the best way they can work together. This is how I see it. OASF follow the procedure they feel is necessary while PTB have said that enough is enough. Put everything behind PTB in whichever way you find appropriate. I'm boycotting home matches but I've bought my tangerine clown wigs ready to attend away matches and the Hartlepool and any other protest. I'm also prepared to contribute towards any offline marketing to help bring supporters who don't use social media on board. If you are attending home matches then support the team and give the Lemmies hell in equal measure. There are different ideas on the best approach. Whatever your view is, do something. The time is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, Andy b said: Have a word with PTB about me mate and come back then But you did nothing as part of the trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Bosnian Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Comments from Barry as an ex policeman will also be appreciated. I think we've heard more than enough from him this past few weeks, don't encourage him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 33 minutes ago, Andy b said: Wondered when you might pipe up. You’re lovely aren’t. 32 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: What have you taken issue with? You keep calling on people to do something. You were a part of the trust and did nothing. So not sure how you can continue preaching like you are. It's got shades of Barry Owen about it Come on fellas Can we not put our differences to one side for the bigger cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: But you did nothing as part of the trust. Like I said. Do that and then come back. Have a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, mick26 said: Agree with that but not bothered about the ex policeman's thoughts on this or any other matter. Just his view from a police standpoint I'm after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Barry Bosnian said: I think we've heard more than enough from him this past few weeks, don't encourage him! On this subject I'd like his point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I heard the trust guy on gmr, he said stage one blah blah, stage two actively look for a new owner, stage three mumbled something then said something about finding a new owner. What is stage 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, BP1960 said: On this subject I'd like his point of view. Anybody can hire security, either crowd control or personal, but they either have to be licensed (SIA & DBS), this can be for close protection use. Use of force is a very last resort and the same principles apply for any civilian really, common law. So if these security lads and lasses are being over the top or excessive in their duty then they are breaking the law. The Police, Security service and Military also do this but not privately. The cost of having to have GMP in the ground yesterday will be a bob or two for the club too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, latics22 said: I heard the trust guy on gmr, he said stage one blah blah, stage two actively look for a new owner, stage three mumbled something then said something about finding a new owner. What is stage 3? Looking for a new owner/investors shouldn’t be a ‘stage’… it should be a constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, maximus1267 said: Anybody can hire security, either crowd control or personal, but they either have to be licensed (SIA & DBS), this can be for close protection use. Use of force is a very last resort and the same principles apply for any civilian really, common law. So if these security lads and lasses are being over the top or excessive in their duty then they are breaking the law. The Police, Security service and Military also do this but not privately. The cost of having to have GMP in the ground yesterday will be a bob or two for the club too. Don't think Taurus have helped themselves with their behaviour yesterday. Some of the older heads who probably haven't been to a home game in ages are talking about mobilising in order to 'sort them out' next time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Down Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I would be prepared to contribute to any fund which sustains those involved in non violent and non discriminatory protest in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 5 hours ago, tGWB said: Come on fellas Can we not put our differences to one side for the bigger cause Indeed Mcfluff needs to accept he's wrong he won't obviously that requires brain cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Indeed Mcfluff needs to accept he's wrong he won't obviously that requires brain cells. Not quite putting differences aside but… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Don't think Taurus have helped themselves with their behaviour yesterday. Some of the older heads who probably haven't been to a home game in ages are talking about mobilising in order to 'sort them out' next time round. and that to me is a worry and would play right into almos hands "look at those yobs starting fights " and atacking our security as you can bet your mortgage thats how it will be portrayed in the media to the detriment of any peacfull protests now and in the future .how many would just look at the headline and fail to read the underlying story . we have to be very carefull not to be tagged as "just a bunch of football hooligans " as our messsage will soon get lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 12 hours ago, BP1960 said: Comments from Barry as an ex policeman will also be appreciated. Didn’t a certain former policeman attempt to sue this site at one point? Think that comment might be libellous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 11 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Don't think Taurus have helped themselves with their behaviour yesterday. Some of the older heads who probably haven't been to a home game in ages are talking about mobilising in order to 'sort them out' next time round. I have it on good authority (One of the Taurus directors) that the goons in the RRE kicking off were categorically not Taurus employees. He also confirms that the steward that went in with a straightener on a yoof at a previous home match which was spotted on camera has been sacked. Apparently they were boozing in the White Hart before the game on Saturday I heard from another source. I personally don't think Taurus help themselves on their general silence on these incidents. They really have a duty to release a statement on these incidents to absolve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 21 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said: It's got shades of Barry Owen about it Nah. Andy b was calling on Abs for details of his plan almost before Corney snake charmed him into buying the badge. Risking myself from an PeteG bad day, loveblind cyber swing and a miss, Barry Owen is just a powerhungry, self obsessed swear word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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